I have had semis and revolvers for years, but about 20 years ago I got my ccw and went searching for the best ccw gun. I liked my revolvers, but wanted more rounds. I bought my 1st Glock precisely because it had no safety...and no other levers or decockers, etc. Simple, just point and shoot, kinda like a revolver.
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Shot my first Glock.
- Thread starter Prof Young
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I was on a 1911 kick for a while...owned two, and a Ballester Molina. I started wanting a compact 45, but research showed a lot of folks having issues with them.
However, the Glock 30 got great reviews, including from Mas Ayoob.
Coincidentally, a G30 came up for sale near me, so I bought it.
I found I could shoot it as well as my full sized 1911's..excellent accuracy and reliability
However, the Glock 30 got great reviews, including from Mas Ayoob.
Coincidentally, a G30 came up for sale near me, so I bought it.
I found I could shoot it as well as my full sized 1911's..excellent accuracy and reliability
I was a traditionalist .Blue steel and wood. It took a long time to even warm up to stainless.
Then I shot a friends Glock . To my surprise I liked it and shot it well.I can't say I am fond of their looks, but I have come to appreciate the design.
That was many years ago . I own several. Today may EDC are a 23 and a 43. Sometimes change is good
Then I shot a friends Glock . To my surprise I liked it and shot it well.I can't say I am fond of their looks, but I have come to appreciate the design.
That was many years ago . I own several. Today may EDC are a 23 and a 43. Sometimes change is good
If you like the Glock trigger yet want a safety you may also want to take a look at the Ruger SR9. Very Glock like trigger (the SR9c I had was significantly smoother than my Glocks, yet had the feel) and a thumb safety.
I had 2 of the compact models and they were reliable and accurate.
There are plenty of other plastic striker guns out there to try as well but I personally prefer Glocks trigger over any of them, especially the Gen 5.
I had 2 of the compact models and they were reliable and accurate.
There are plenty of other plastic striker guns out there to try as well but I personally prefer Glocks trigger over any of them, especially the Gen 5.
Glocks are simple "meat-n-potatoes" functioning handguns. No bling, no elevated comforts, no hyped descriptive name branding, just a simple and dead reliable shooter. I have many other semi's that feel better in my hands, better trigger pull, lesser reliability and shoot smoother. If i'm in a situation where I absolutely need to get off a shot in the worst of deadly circumstances I would not hesitate to grab my Glock.
marine6680
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A properly designed trigger system for striker pistols... Really makes them safe without a safety. The Glock is one of the safest designs... It is basically physically impossible for the pistol to fire unless you pull the trigger. No amount of banging, or drops, or anything else with make it fire. Only the trigger being pulled to the rear.
A manual safety really doesn't add much except peice of mind to certain people. At least on something like a Glock. I wouldn't carry a 1911 without one.
If you can make sure to take the time to look and make sure your holster is clear when hostering the pistol, you remove like 90% of the potential problems.
If you liked the Glock trigger well enough, you would likely really enjoy the VP9 or PPQ triggers. The M&P trigger is ok, but to me the trigger bow flexes too much, so I replace that with a stiffer version. Then the trigger is pretty good.
If you really want a safety, the M&P offers them. The M&P 2.0 has improved the trigger pull a good deal, but it still flexes a bit. With some drop in parts, you can get the M&P trigger to be very crisp and smooth. Something more akin to a single action hammer fired pistol, just with more take up. With a manual safety, you could still be safe with a reduced travel trigger and bringing the pull weight down to 5lb or so.
Another pistol with a safety is the FNS series... The trigger is very Glock like, it's actually the same basic concept executed in a bit different manner.
When it comes to aftermarket parts on a pistol for defense use... I go by the addage of... Don't add any obvious external modifications that will catch the eye, don't add slogans or quotes that are about killing or judgement, don't remove or disable any safety devices, and lastly... do not get the trigger pull out of factory specs. (Factory specs meaning, if the manufacturer of the pistol states it has a 5-6lb trigger, don't go below 5lb. The M&P comes in a Pro model with trigger specs that are lower than a standard, so that can give you some wiggle room)
The likelihood of some internal modifications being used against me... Is pretty low. Unless the trigger is super light, most forensic guys examining the pistol are not likely to comment on it. And most prosecutors will not be able to tell much from a basic look at the pistol either.
But if you have obvious modifications to the outside of the pistol, like stippling or whatnot, they may get the idea to look harder, or have an expert look it over.
Having quotes and sayings on the pistol may be a bad thing as well, if you have things that are about killing or judgement of the wicked, they may use that as an argument to say that you want to kill people that you judge as being bad.
It's still all unlikely, and mostly the danger of such things is regional, based on the political climate of where you are. So I look at it as being a situation where you use common sense, and be reasonable with modifications. Don't draw attention to the firearm in question as being anything but ordinary, and you will most likely be fine.
A manual safety really doesn't add much except peice of mind to certain people. At least on something like a Glock. I wouldn't carry a 1911 without one.
If you can make sure to take the time to look and make sure your holster is clear when hostering the pistol, you remove like 90% of the potential problems.
If you liked the Glock trigger well enough, you would likely really enjoy the VP9 or PPQ triggers. The M&P trigger is ok, but to me the trigger bow flexes too much, so I replace that with a stiffer version. Then the trigger is pretty good.
If you really want a safety, the M&P offers them. The M&P 2.0 has improved the trigger pull a good deal, but it still flexes a bit. With some drop in parts, you can get the M&P trigger to be very crisp and smooth. Something more akin to a single action hammer fired pistol, just with more take up. With a manual safety, you could still be safe with a reduced travel trigger and bringing the pull weight down to 5lb or so.
Another pistol with a safety is the FNS series... The trigger is very Glock like, it's actually the same basic concept executed in a bit different manner.
When it comes to aftermarket parts on a pistol for defense use... I go by the addage of... Don't add any obvious external modifications that will catch the eye, don't add slogans or quotes that are about killing or judgement, don't remove or disable any safety devices, and lastly... do not get the trigger pull out of factory specs. (Factory specs meaning, if the manufacturer of the pistol states it has a 5-6lb trigger, don't go below 5lb. The M&P comes in a Pro model with trigger specs that are lower than a standard, so that can give you some wiggle room)
The likelihood of some internal modifications being used against me... Is pretty low. Unless the trigger is super light, most forensic guys examining the pistol are not likely to comment on it. And most prosecutors will not be able to tell much from a basic look at the pistol either.
But if you have obvious modifications to the outside of the pistol, like stippling or whatnot, they may get the idea to look harder, or have an expert look it over.
Having quotes and sayings on the pistol may be a bad thing as well, if you have things that are about killing or judgement of the wicked, they may use that as an argument to say that you want to kill people that you judge as being bad.
It's still all unlikely, and mostly the danger of such things is regional, based on the political climate of where you are. So I look at it as being a situation where you use common sense, and be reasonable with modifications. Don't draw attention to the firearm in question as being anything but ordinary, and you will most likely be fine.
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Though I've never heard Glock triggers described as "crisp."
I saw that and got a good chuckle out of it!
Glocks are good pistols and they have an almost cult like following.
claydoctor
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The first time I saw a Glock, I thought, man, that is one ugly gun ! Then I had the opportunity to shoot one and was impressed enough that I bought the Model 23. What I didn't realize was that if I shot more than two mags through it, that inner steel trigger really made my finger sore. I ended up giving it to my son. Consequently, every time I see a pistol with that trigger in a trigger, I cross it off my wish list.
The trigger and the trigger safety (inner trigger) are both plastic. They do attach to the trigger bar which is steel, but the steel trigger bar never comes in contact with the user's finger.What I didn't realize was that if I shot more than two mags through it, that inner steel trigger really made my finger sore...
claydoctor
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The fact that it is plastic, did not make it any less painful.
If it's any comfort, I have heard of other folks who experience trigger finger discomfort (trigger slap) when shooting Glocks. It's not all that common and it's only rarely possible to verify whether it's related to a problem with a specific gun or if it's just some difference in the shooter's anatomy.
For years I've owned a G22 and never shot it that much. For years I've been encouraging people to look at the XD and PPQ as alternatives to Glock. But, this year I took an opportunity to rent a G19 Gen 5, M&P 2.0 Compact, Sig P365, and also shot my PPQ, XDm, and XD Mod.2 next to them. I shot groups at varying distances and tempos, measured each, documented the findings, and it was clear... I shot the G19 Gen5 consistently better than all of them, even the pistols I've had for years. I REALLY wanted to like the M&P 2.0 Compact, and I did... it wasn't bad at all. But, the G19 felt more solid in my hands and consistently shot better. While "feel" is great and all, downrange performance is where it counts and I can't deny the numbers. Needless to say, I now have a G19 Gen 5 (which has a much nicer trigger than my Gen 3 G22).
I was never a "hater" of Glocks, but never really warmed up to them. This Gen 5 G19 has won me over though. It's just about the perfect "do all" pistol.
I was never a "hater" of Glocks, but never really warmed up to them. This Gen 5 G19 has won me over though. It's just about the perfect "do all" pistol.