Shooting of Officer Stone.

If you want to go to that extent, than I guess most of us are indeed "criminals".
I DEFINITELY was prior to getting married and having a child!!!:o
BOY! Have my stripes changed!!!:D
I think you take it to an extreme though.
I mean, really!
My 84 yr old mother jaywalks in NYC, in the strictest sense of the term, I suppose that makes her a criminal.
But I get your point.
and toddle off...
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Are you American born?
I only ask cause my Scotish relatives would say that.
We have strayed, haven't we!:D
 
But I thought 'mexican nationals' *cough* don't contribute to the crime problem? There would have been at least ONE less attempted murder that year were it not for this 'mexican national'.
 
Yeah, I'm born and raised here. But my Irish relatives used to sday that... :D

Taking it to an extreme? Yeah, probably, but it seems almost everything goes to one extreme or the other these days, so why be different? ;)
 
The laws are the fabric of a civil society

As I have stated in a prior post, if you can't "grasp that" it is your problem.

Some are old and should not be enforced some are new and should not be enforced, unfortunatly/fortunatly, those distinctions are to be clairified in a court of law. Why the system is set up that way.

Its pretty simple really.

Some countries laws are different than other countries. Some States have laws that are different than other States. The Federal Government can override State law and have in the past, when it come's to civil rights.

The officer shot was a State officer I believe, enforcing the chicken code of vehicle speeding. Found the guy to be intoxicated, he should have placed him under arrest and immediatly hand cuffed the person, he failed to do a good job, he was shot for his bungling way of handling that particular situation.

That is where training comes in, certain departments train one way and others train another. Policy has a lot to do with what an officer will or will not be able to do.
But because he allowed that person to dictate the way things got done he paid for it big time. Watching that video was like watching an accident going to happen.

It is a good training film on how not to. Pretty sad that he got shot but he could have done so much to change the scenario and failed to.

Hope he recovers and works inside he will be less confident and therefore more of a danger in the future. I wish him well, but he messed up big time and paid the price. IMO

I am not sure if that was an reenactment that I saw or the real deal. But it was messed up for sure.

HQ
 
I hate to be critical of the man, but I have to agree there were things done/not done that contributed to, or at least, allowed things to play out as they did.
Is an open liquor bottle grounds for immediate arrest?
If so, why wasn't the bum cuffed then?
I was VERY suprised to see the officer bend down to pick up the bag of pot, thereby putting himself in a vulnerable position.
And isn't a waistband patdown SOP?
That's where Bum #1 had his gun.
I can't believe B#1 didn't hit Stone in the head/neck!!
The gun couldn't have been more than a foot away from Stone, and pointed right at his throat area.
I just seems like too much time was aloowed to elapse before Stone took aggressive control.
But not being a trained, this is all conjecture on my part.
Just glad Stone is OK and the bums are goin' away.
 
DasBoot

Good observation. Monday morning quarterbacking is what keeps us and them alive.

I too am sorry he was shot, fortunatly he survived and the BG's are in jail.
But if he would have done a good job, others would not have been injured later on in their crime spree.

How's the safe going :)

HQ
 
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