Shooting bounty hunters who enter the home

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Doggieman

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Just had the misfortune of catching a few minutes of "Dog, The Bounty Hunter" where a fake blond mulleted guy and his less-than-supermodel wife go around trying to catch bail jumpers.

Wondering if anybody knew of how the law works with regard to shooting a bounty hunter that enters the home. Do they have the same ability to B&E as police? Or what?

Thanks!
 
Do they have the same ability to B&E as police? Or what?
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They have more
They don't need warrants
There have been many cases of Bounty hunters invading the wrong home with total impunity even though they were clearly in the wrong

As far as shooting them
Why not? You can legally shoot a police officer for doing the same thing

I don't think I have ever seen Dog forcibly enter a home on suspicion though
He bullies and intimidates but never invades unless he knows the fugitive is n the house
But I know of the wonders of editting
 
here's a partial answer

well we know the law in Arizona:

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National News Briefs; 'Bounty Hunter' Guilty In Arizona Shootings
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Published: November 1, 1998
A jury rejected a self-proclaimed bounty hunter's self-defense arguments and convicted him on Friday of first-degree murder in the deaths of a couple shot in their bed.

Michael Sanders, 41, faces sentencing next January for the August 1997 killings of Christopher Foote, 25, and Spring Wright, 19. Prosecutors are asking for the death penalty.

The killings prompted an Arizona law requiring bounty hunters to be licensed and to get permission from a home's occupants before entering.

Prosecutors said Mr. Sanders was the leader of four heavily armed men who burst into Mr. Foote's home in the early morning hours, wearing body armor and masks. Mr. Foote fired his handgun as his bedroom door was kicked down, and Mr. Sanders fired 18 shots from his assault rifle into the bedroom.
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In a number of states including Oregon, Wisconsin, Illinois and Kentucky they are illegal.

Others states have severe restrictions and only able to work for one company such as in Florida and South and North Carolina.

Most other states nowadays just require licensing and a bunch of other restrictions.

They are entitled to break into the house of a bail jumper if they know he is there. They are not entitled to break into other people's houses and are therefore classified as any other unknown intrudor in your residence. They may enter a third party residence to arrest a bail jumper with concent of the owner.

Theres lots of other laws too.
 
As far as shooting them
Why not? You can legally shoot a police officer for doing the same thing
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I think, in some states anyway, that it is illegal to shoot a policeman kicking in your door, even if they are in the wrong. DAs will persecute you for it anyway. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

That being said, if anyone, crook, bounty hunter, cops breaks into my home without a warrant unannounced with guns or attempt to do harm, they are going to get shot. Sort it out in court later if I am still alive.
 
here's a list

Here's a list of the legal status of bounty hunters in each US state:

http://www.fugitiverecovery.com/laws/overview.htm

I'm guessing that the more illegal their activities are (some states ban them outright), the more protection a homeowner (even a fugitive homeowner) has in shooting them if they kick down the door.

I guess we'd have to look to state court judicial rulings on the final word though. Probably not a whole lot of 'em. I'll check.
 
I've talked to some that try to talk their profession up big, but the fact remains that they are not police officers.
In spite of that, some do try to fool people by dressing up like police officers on a raid. In my eyes that is certainly a purposeful attempt at misrepresentation and I have more than a few worries about the armed people who are forcing their way in under the pretext of being police officers.
So yes, I would argue self defence after the fact.
 
I think this "Dog" guy will soon be dead I'm sad to admit. He sometimes beats in doors yelling "Get down mother f'er!" without declaring what his business there is. On top of that, he points a mace "gun" at these people at the same time.

If someone broke my door in while my babies were asleep, pointing these "guns" at me while yelling, all the while not declaring who they were or what their business was, I think the outcome would be grim.

Another thing. All this guy is, is a creditor. He loans these guys money on credit. Why should he have anymore power than a credit card company? If you go in default on a loan should you have to worry about lawyers breaking through your front door in the middle of the night? "Freeze mother f'er! We have a warrant for all your commodities!". LOL
 
It is only illegal to shoot a bounty hunter or a police man for kicking in your door if I am not on you jury and I don't much care what the judge or legislature has to say about the matter.

Best Regards,
Richard
 
I think, in some states anyway, that it is illegal to shoot a policeman kicking in your door, even if they are in the wrong. DAs will persecute you for it anyway. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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I can't speak for other states but Florida has had a few incidents where police have been shot doing no knocks on the wrong house and the home owners have not been convicted

It is only illegal to shoot a bounty hunter or a police man for kicking in your door if I am not on you jury and I don't much care what the judge or legislature has to say about the matter.
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But what if the other 11 jurors do care about the law and a home owners right to self defense?
 
It is illegal for anyone (LEO or Private Citizen) to kick in your

door with out 'prior approval'. In fact, it is questionable if LEO's have that right even with a 'no knock' warrant. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it was finally determined those heavily armed treasury agents in Waco a few years back were in the wrong with how they 'attempted' to serve their warrants.
 
Whatever you think of them, bounty hunters do a valuable service. Most of them aren't the idiots depicted on TV. They return many fugitives to custody that would otherwise remain free because most LEO agencies do not have the manpower to dedicate resources to do this. They are also what enable bail bondsmen to remain in business. Without them, the vast majority of people accused of crimes would have to sit in jail awaiting trial.
 
But what if the other 11 jurors do care about the law and a home owners right to self defense?
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I think you missed a negative in there...I'm pretty sure he was saying he cares very deeply about a homeowner's right to self defense and would not convict.
 
"Another thing. All this guy is, is a creditor. He loans these guys money on credit. Why should he have anymore power than a credit card company? If you go in default on a loan should you have to worry about lawyers breaking through your front door in the middle of the night? "Freeze mother f'er! We have a warrant for all your commodities!"."

The bail bondsman has a contract, and you sign to get the bail.
The 'borower' has already agreed to many of the conditions.

You have already payed the bondsman his fee.
He is looking to avoid having to loose the bond to the court.
 
I agree, they have a place and do their job....

I don't watch 'dog' on tv but I think in passing I've seen the hype... it's all tv. If you are 'wanted' by the court then a bounty hunter has a 'right' to arrest you within the law. I don't believe that right extends to kicking in the door of a place they suspect you of being. If someone kicks in my door, day or night, with out letting me know who it is, there is a good chance they will be dead... I might end up the same... but I'm going to do my best to stop the first few individuals through the door.

Somebody is going to have a lot of 'splaining' to do after the fact either way, regardless of if it's me or the remaining Law Enforcement people.
 
Just had the misfortune of catching a few minutes of "Dog, The Bounty Hunter" where a fake blond mulleted guy and his less-than-supermodel wife go around trying to catch bail jumpers.
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What the ...? How can you possibly say that the Dog's wife is not a super-model???!
 
But what if the other 11 jurors do care about the law and a home owners right to self defense?
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I think you missed a negative in there...I'm pretty sure he was saying he cares very deeply about a homeowner's right to self defense and would not convict.
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Exactly, joab, that's what he be sayin'....he is pro-self-defense. Having said that, the concern about the 11 other jurors is right on. Actually, all 12, since he will be culled from the pool during voir dire, in all likelihood, unless he actively conceals his beliefs by lying to the court.
 
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"As far as shooting them
Why not? You can legally shoot a police officer for doing the same thing"

You're an idiot!:rolleyes: Nuff said!
 
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