Shipping handgun via UPS

Cawdor,

Interesting discussion. My letter is signed by Edward M. Owen, Chief of the Firearms Technology Branch. These are the people that are supposed to settle disputes. I'm not surprised to see different interpretations from different field offices. Now we have differences between branches at BATF. Without seeing the law as written in the US Code or the preamble to the regulation, I would guess that the intent was to require notification, but that the regulation was poorly written (Those damned punctuation marks!). I work a lot with Dept of Transportation regulations and have files of hundreds of letters of interpretation and clarification and have never seen conflicting opinions from DOT HQ. I think the reason is that all requests are sent to one office and not handled by whichever branch gets the initial inquiry.

[This message has been edited by EOD Guy (edited September 16, 2000).]
 
EOD Guy,

Perhaps we should exchange copies of the answers we received, and forward them to the BATF for clarification. Either Mr. Thomas or Mr. Owen is wrong, and wrong about a fundamental point.
 
handguns sent for warrenty DO NOT have to be shipped FROM an FFL when using UPS. they must be shipped overnight, but not overnight express as ArmySon says. USP offers overnight saver at a lower cost.

handguns being sent to another party permanantly, ie sale, must have an FFL on the reciving end ONLY. that is federal (state laws may differ).

longguns sent within the state borders may be shipped without an FFL's involvement on either end.

long guns shipped out of state must have an ffl on the reicving end ONLY. that is federal law (state laws may differ).

alot of you guys who THINK they know what they're talking about may be confusing the new guys who dont do this weekly.
get your facts right before spouting off some gibberish like "you must have an FFL on the shipping end".
additionally, i have spoken w/ UPS as to thier overnight policy and as they stated it was a saftey issue not a financial one, i asked " so if i ship the pistol disassembled and w/o a barrel do i still have to overnight it?"
they stated NO, it would be considered inoperable gun parts.
 
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