Double Naught Spy
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...only the man with the gun is a licensed CCW and the sheepdog is an idiot.
Michael Foster apparently spotted Clarence Daniels' gun while in the parking lot and followed Daniels into Wal-Mart where he implemented a less than perfect takedown of Daniels. Foster was aided by several other do-gooders who helped to disarm Daniels and remove the gun from the immediate area and keep Daniels pinned down.
During the event, Foster is yelling "He has a gun!" and Daniels is yelling that he has a license for it.
Foster was charged for the battery.
Several lessons here. If you carry concealed, make sure it stays concealed.
Situational awareness is important. I doubt most people would realize they are about to be attacked while entering a Wal-Mart, however. As with any use of force situation, if you get involved, you better get it right. It doesn't matter that you are being a sheepdog and trying to save the world if you attack the wrong person. Foster is lucky that Daniels was old(er, aged 62), apparently not well trained, and completely not expecting the attack or Foster may have been injured or killed as a result of his attempted choke hold. Daniels is lucky Foster didn't severely injure him. They are both lucky nobody got shot during the disarming and hot-potato gun handling that went on afterwards.
http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/2015/01/20/shopper-tackles-man-with-gun-at-wal-mart/22067325/
http://tbo.com/news/crime/deputies-man-attacks-walmart-customer-carrying-concealed-weapon-20150120/
http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...-at-walmart-attacked-by-vigilante-for/2214432
Youtube version of video for when the news links die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-...6w&feature=player_embedded&x-yt-ts=1421782837
Michael Foster apparently spotted Clarence Daniels' gun while in the parking lot and followed Daniels into Wal-Mart where he implemented a less than perfect takedown of Daniels. Foster was aided by several other do-gooders who helped to disarm Daniels and remove the gun from the immediate area and keep Daniels pinned down.
During the event, Foster is yelling "He has a gun!" and Daniels is yelling that he has a license for it.
Foster was charged for the battery.
Several lessons here. If you carry concealed, make sure it stays concealed.
Situational awareness is important. I doubt most people would realize they are about to be attacked while entering a Wal-Mart, however. As with any use of force situation, if you get involved, you better get it right. It doesn't matter that you are being a sheepdog and trying to save the world if you attack the wrong person. Foster is lucky that Daniels was old(er, aged 62), apparently not well trained, and completely not expecting the attack or Foster may have been injured or killed as a result of his attempted choke hold. Daniels is lucky Foster didn't severely injure him. They are both lucky nobody got shot during the disarming and hot-potato gun handling that went on afterwards.
http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/2015/01/20/shopper-tackles-man-with-gun-at-wal-mart/22067325/
http://tbo.com/news/crime/deputies-man-attacks-walmart-customer-carrying-concealed-weapon-20150120/
http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...-at-walmart-attacked-by-vigilante-for/2214432
Youtube version of video for when the news links die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-...6w&feature=player_embedded&x-yt-ts=1421782837
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