EricReynolds
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I like horse hockey. Points for the Col. Potter reference.
Operating a locomotive under the influence, MCL 462.353(3)
As well, there is a standard course of live fire/ proficiency in which 50 rounds are fired at ranges of 3, 7, and 25 yards with a minimum score of 80 out of 100 required to pass.
What happens if you shoot someone at 25 yards? I can't think of too many instances in which that would be justified. It doesn't sound like a reasonable requirement to me.
If someone points a gun at me from 25 yards, I would not think it unjustified to shoot my own. I would certainly be in fear of my life or serious injury.
You only have to shoot a total of 12 rounds at that distance, 12 rounds at 7 and 26 at 3 yards. This is shooting at a pretty standard silhouette target with a fairly large target zone. [for some reason no pictures of these targets are to be found via google] This zone, which is most of the area of the silhouette outline, counts 2 points per hit, and the outer part of the silhouette counts 1. Misses are zero. A score of 80 is pretty easy...only two hits in the target zone required at the longer distance.
Reasonable requirement? Maybe, maybe not. Frankly, I would think anyone serious about taking up a firearm for self defense would make sure they can shoot it at least this well. At least anyone committed to carrying it around with them in public.
I'm in agreement that if you can own a gun you can carry it... openly.
If you want to carry concealed a simple permit process could be in effect. I envisioned one that would go like this....
Go to the police station or sheriff and ask to get a CCW. You have to fill out a brief form for your ID info and answer some questions like the 4473 form.
They take your ID and run your records for any disqualifiers. Then, they take thumbprint and your photo.
You pay them $15
Within about 20 minutes you get your laminated card.
And a pamphlet that describes off-limits CCW zones and what to do if you have to shoot (call 911, get help, STFU)
Have a nice day.
The ONLY reason I can think of to retain a permit for CCW is that most cops feel a little better about you if they know you've been screened.