Seriously, explain Democrats to me?

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I don't give a rats behind for party names.
If I think you are the right person to take care of this country, I don't care if you've got 3 eyes and 2 heads, I'm voting for you!
Gender/race/religion mean nothing....though I'm not sure about a moslem at this point.

I usually vote Republican because their politics are pretty well aligned with my own.
I was well into my 30s before I ever gave the parties a thought, but once I started listening to what I was seeing and hearing, one thing was/IS certain.

I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SCUM IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!

It seems that everytime there is some anti-social, anti-American, anti-common sense event or idea, its participants are dems.....or their close pals the Socialists and/or Communists.

Tell me if these things would be supported by anyone that cares about our country:
A president has sexual daliances IN the White house.....to dems, no problem!
A congresswomen hits a police officer....to dems, no problem!
Encourage urban youth to speak like ignorant fools (Ebonics)....dems again!

Let's set a date to leave Iraq, negating all we've done and will do.
Not to mention the horrific conditions that will most assuredly come about once we leave.
The left forced us to retreat from Nam......how many millions did the Khmer Rouge murder after we left?
Full support from dems.
The dems profess to want womans rights, yet they would be willing to let Iraqi women fall back into a world of abuse, subjugation and ignorance.

The economy is thriving and unemployment at record lows.
But the dems will never give credit to a Republican president for helping to bring any of that about.
They would rather see huge numbers of people out of work so they can point the finger of blame a Bush.
Their hypocrisy is unbelievable.

And can you believe what these people tried to do with the senate immigration bill!!!!!:mad:

How can you POSSIBLY care about the future of this country if you basically want to just open the doors and let everone just come streaming in????

You're here illegally......fine.
Here's amnesty!!!!

Kerry's Vietnam lies.
Mertha pushing to punish our brave marines.
Dean!
Pilossi!
Kennedy!
People to be proud of.....if you're a dem!

I think it's a filthy party, with the exception of Joe Lieberman and maybe others I don't know of.

Everytime there is a riot in the streets, or some garbage gets shot by an LEO,
I doubt there are many, if any, Republicans coming to their defence.
How about these scum professors teaching how terible the USA is and how reviled we are around the world.
Are they Republican?

To you dems out there.........WHAT GIVES!!!!:confused:
Help me understand your stand......if you can.
I would love to hear from anyone that can point out, IN DETAIL, why perhaps I'm "mis-interpreting" the dems mindset.

Rant over......your move.:cool:
 
you make a lot of good points but if you could elaborate on this bit

How about these scum professors teaching how terible the USA is and how reviled we are around the world.
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I wish I could recall his name....
O'Rielly went after this guy.
He's a professor out west, Colorado possibly.
He was spewing the worst anti-America rhetoric you can imagine....
OH YEAH......one of his more notable statements was that those that died in the WTTs were "Little Eichmans", in essence, they deserved to die because they were cogs in the wheel of American imperialism.
There's another one in California that has opened a charter school where again America is being portrayed as a vile and terrible place.
He is Hispanic, don't recall his name.
He is an ex-gang member also.
I have heard of numerous accounts where teachers have used their position to teach, or to lean heavily towards, the idea that America is an evil place,
or an evil entity, in the world.
Sorry I can't be specific with names and such.
But these have been documented cases on the news, radio and television interviews, etc.
I don't write down the particulars whenever I hear these things.
 
Democrats explained

To be a Democrat:

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by documented cyclical changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.

7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make The Passion Of The Christ for financial gain only.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee, and Thomas Edison.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegally funding the Democrats Party with Chinese Government money is somehow in the best interest to the United States.

21. You have to believe that this list is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.
 
Six,
WONDERFUL!:)
You've made my point even clearer!

I know there are Dems out there!
Come forward and support your beliefs.
Lay it out for us to discuss.

Pick any one of Six4sure's points for starters.
 
David Horowitz has a new book out called: The Professors.

He covers how the leftwing infiltrated and seized control of our colleges, and is indoctritinating young minds accross America.

One only needs look at all the radical left wing groups polluting college campuses, Answer.org, Code Pink, N.O.W. ALF, ELF, PETA it's no big seceret anymore.
 
I guess there aren't any dems on this site.
Either that, or they don't have the strength of their convictions to come out and explain the garbage their party espouses.:mad:
 
Both parties suck and both parties are enemies of freedom. The dems think that liberty comes from the government. The Republicans think liberty is tied to money and business. BOTH ARE WRONG!! Both would disparage the rights of Americans in one way or another. Constitution Party!!
If you think Bush is concerned with the average joe, how about the NAFTA Superhighway or the preposed north american union!!

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15682

http://www.nascocorridor.com/

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965
 
I'm with you to a point garry.
But of the 2, I'll stick with the republicans until something better comes alomng.
Bush has been a HUGE disappointment to me with regards to the border issue, I'll say that much!
But I'm still waiting to hear from dems about their ideology.:rolleyes:
 
Das Boot,
There's one Democrat that I know of on this board. I guess he's not around.
Maybe this isn't the best place to ask?
Why don't you try asking the folks over at DailyKos? I'm sure they'd be happy to explain it all....
 
Dianne Feinstein reveals the Democrat mentality on guns

I wish I could recall his name....
O'Rielly went after this guy.
He's a professor out west, Colorado possibly.
He was spewing the worst anti-America rhetoric you can imagine....
OH YEAH......one of his more notable statements was that those that died in the WTTs were "Little Eichmans", in essence, they deserved to die because they were cogs in the wheel of American imperialism.
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Boot,

The guy you are referring to is Ward Churchill; he "teaches" at the U. of Colorado. His hatred for America knows no bounds.

Personally speaking, if I ever meet up with Mr. Churchill, I've got something for him...:D

BTW, outstanding post!!! You too, Six For Sure. Many here agree with you - a few don't. Wonder why they are silent?

The best way Democrats can be explained comes from one Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), the grand dame of antigun bigotry. Years ago, I read the story of her sit-down with an NRA lobbyist.

The lobbyist laid out a comprehensive presentation for her, demonstrating with meticulously researched and footnoted facts how "gun control" caused crime to actually increase in cities with the most harsh antigun laws, making the cities in question more unsafe for the lawful citizens there.

Feinstein's reply? "I will not be deterred by the facts."

Those eight words speak volumes about the mentality of Feinstein and her gun-ban cronies, 95% of whom are Democrats.

They don't care about facts. They want what they want and by God, they'll get it one way or another - regardless of the price others have to pay.
 
I’m sorry but I find this thread a bit ridiculous. A gang of people who obviously have their minds made up and seem very close-minded baiting the clear minority. What a bunch of over-generalized, biased written crap. But fine, you asked for it, *steps in front of the firing squad*.

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
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I am neither

2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
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I sure don't believe that a group of people whose primary interest is making profit can be trusted to properly compensate and care for their worker’s quality of living. They might not mistreat them intentionally, but it ISNT going to be their main concern.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.
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Haha, well my position on gun control should be beyond question. But I don’t think anyone (either party) smiles at those folks having nukes; if you really think so then you need to quit believing everything your party tells you about the guys across the aisle.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
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I'll admit I haven’t made up my mind on this issue. The real problem (in my opinion) is that modern printing, digital/technological advances, and a general shift of public interest has made art a dying trade. Some people might not care about this but I think the ability of humans to create is what separates us from beasts. BUT I’ve seen some of the junk to receive federal funding which I sure wouldn’t want over my mantle piece.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by documented cyclical changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.
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Versus spending years denying that global temperatures are even changing? But seriously, No I don’t think SUV's are the sole cause of global warming, but you'd be hard pressed to prove that dependence on fossil fuels isn’t a problem on many levels, and I think there is a conflict of interest for oil men to be the ones finding a solution.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.
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My studies in anthropology make it pretty clear to me that gender roles are, at some level instinctual and natural. My personal experiences with friends, coworkers, and studying history make it clear to me that homosexuality is also an unconscious, unchangeable trait.

7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
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One of my biggest pet peeves with my party is the history of throwing money at a problem without making sure they're hitting the mark. I’m sure there are more than a few African rulers getting rich off well-meaning aid money. But promoting abstinence/chastity/fidelity and refusing to supply condoms isn’t going to help either. People of all cultures sleep around, always have, always will.

8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
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My biggest pet peeve with parents: placing all blame on the teacher. The best teacher in the world can use all his skills (despite being paid less yearly than a low level manager at Wal-Mart) to teach a kid. But if the kid is never taught (buy the parents) hard work, taught that school is important, and have a parent actively involved in their schooling, are they going to care enough to learn? Also, I think sex ed. is a bit silly. I learned every reproductive organ and absolutely nothing about sex other than "wait til you're married". Well here’s news to anyone who forgot since their high school days, teens have sex, they have in all generations. So teaching them not to do it (they will anyways) without explaining REAL contraception methods is entirely ineffective.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.
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I believe neither.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
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Could you be more specific? I’m sure you have an example in mind, but I don’t understand what you're addressing. (But I do work 40+ hours a week welding plus take 15 credit hours per semester in college).

11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make The Passion Of The Christ for financial gain only.
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Believe it or not, most Dems are not angry atheists....although unfortunately I know a few (but I am not among their ranks).

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
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I am thankful for nearly all special interest groups, whether I agree with them or not. With a 2 party system special interest groups are the only way for minority or non-high profile issues to be addressed.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
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This I take issue with. The "conservative party" is spending at record rates, without any accountability for how it’s all going to get paid for. Do I want higher taxes hell no. But I think that if you buy something, you need to pay for it. And you don't do that by cutting taxes for the rich. Sorry, but trickle down theory doesn’t work. It just encourages hoarding and old money.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee, and Thomas Edison.
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Margaret and Gloria WHO? You forgot Ben Franklin: THE American.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
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I am completely against standardized tests, but only because the only thing they test is someone's ability to take standardized tests. They don’t test the most important aspect of schooling: work ethic.

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.
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Yea, she sure is a peach ;) (I hope you caught the humor there)

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
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Socialism has worked, and continues to work, in small, mostly hunter-gatherer societies. However, no, it has no place in a huge, ultra-connected modern world. Skilled labor is more valuable to a society than unskilled labor, but they are both needed. Pay the pediatrician and the nano-engineer more than the Wal-Mart clerk, of course. But make sure that the wal-mart clerk can afford to take his child to the pediatrician.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.
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Who is the conservative you're referring to? Also, show me an honest politician, one that doesn’t lie. Infidelity is unforgivable in a marriage, but I don’t think it reflects on someone's ability to run the political machine. Do I like Clinton? I haven’t liked a president in my lifetime, but that hasn’t been that long (born in 85).

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
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Freedom of speech is a complex issue, that’s hard to deny. I endorse freedom of speech, including religious. But I don’t believe in a national religion. Expression without oppression :D

20. You have to believe that illegally funding the Democrats Party with Chinese Government money is somehow in the best interest to the United States.
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Neither is illegally accepting money-for-votes-and-favors via lobbyists. Unfortunately, A democrat representative unfortunately does not need represent Joe democrat. However I realize this, I’m not sure you do.

21. You have to believe that this list is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.
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And everything in the media is a vast left wing conspiracy. :p



You don't have to agree with any of my beliefs, but don’t be so naive as to think that the list of generalizations posted previously represents any given Dem. Approximately half of the United States is Dem. Take a look at half the people you see in a given day and tell me they aren't extremely diverse. Individual people believe in different things, which seem to me to be arbitrarily assigned to conflicting parties.

The same could be said for a list of extreme and/or generalized Rep. views. Which is why I wont post such a list.

Regards, Ryan
 
Now thats an interesting sight. It seems that the dems, judging by the polls, don't like gun control either. Either they don't like it and believe in personal ownership or they think the party should leave it alone.
I noted that when I searched the poll on immigraion the answer given most was to enforce existing laws. Funny, it seems that Clinton recieved the same advise on gun crime.
 
A gang of people who obviously have their minds made up and seem very close-minded
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Another good description of the Democrat mentality on guns! :D
It seems that the dems, judging by the polls, don't like gun control either. Either they don't like it and believe in personal ownership or they think the party should leave it alone.
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That's the schtick they're peddling at present, in an effort to misdirect, mislead and get the votes of niave gun owners.

Let the Democrats get control of the Senate, the House of Representatives and the White House and the mask will come off.

Of course, then it will be too late to stop them.
 
Another good description of the Democrat mentality on guns!
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At least in my generalization i had evidence to view from each poster being generalized.

But just for the record i didnt mean to attack anyone. I was pretty heated when i started my post (after just reading all about myself (a democrat)). but once i got going i calmed down
 
Our right to arms - once it's gone, it's gone. Vote accordingly.

Spahrtan,

I personally don't know you. you may be a gunowner and a shooter; you may enjoy the shooting sports as much as the rest of us here. You may be an NRA life member, a JPFO member, and a GOA member. You may donate your hard-earned money to defend our right to arms. You may volunteer your time and labor towards the same end, even though you call yourself a Democrat. If you do these things, or even one of them - good job!

But the fact remains that you will not find Democrats in the Senate and the House of Representatives who care about our right to arms. 95% of the Democrats in Congress don't give a rat's sphincter about the Second Amendment or what we shooters and gun owners want or think.

I challenge any Democrat here to prove otherwise - name for us all 6% or more current Democrats in Congress who are staunch defenders of the Second Amendment, and have a voting history to back it up. You'll need 13 Democrat names from the House and 3 Democrat names from the Senate. Good luck with that.

They want to disarm the American people, in spite of the "we don't care about passing more antigun laws" schtick they are currently peddling in their quest to return to political power.

Hence the title of this response.
 
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