Second Circuit Court of Appeals Declares 2A Does Not Apply to States

The whole concept of arms restriction is absurd on it's face. The worst thing my (police lieutenant) brother has seen in 20 years was a guy that got his head bashed in with a baseball bat. No set of nun-chucks I've ever seen could do that.

Are we going to outlaw baseball bats, or just continue to regulate the behavior with baseball bats?

The issue is crime and violence. To blame a gun, or nun-chucks, or a bat for violence is to blame a spoon for obesity, and a car for a drunk driving death.

The almost complete absense of guns did not prevent genocide in Rwanda just a few short years ago. 800,000 people died, mostly by machete. A mini holocaust in our own time, accomplished with a weapon that's older than Moses.

Humans who are bent on evil will simply never be at a loss for the means to attempt it. It is only the good-hearted majority of us who can impact evil, and only by retaining the means to oppose it.

Until hearts, minds, and living conditions are changed, we are not only wasting precious time, money, and legislative resources on more useless measures that criminals will merely scoff at, we are closing the noose around our own liberty which has served us very well indeed for some 230-plus years.
 
IIRC, Kali law was they are illegal, unless you are a martial artist, practicing inside a dojo, or some such garbage. At one point you might have had to qualify as some sort of expert, i.e. black belt to have them.

I enjoyed them, and we bought all kinds of trick ones. My favorites were couple of tubes of metal that interlocked into one stick, twist it, and it came apart, with a piece of steel cable for a rope. VERY cool, and, not a joke.

Really way too much time on the legislatures hands. Cut them in all states to 3 months, and then they wouldn't have time to pass all this stupid stuff. Same thing for Congress...
 
Did y'all miss the point?

Focusing on the case, and what is, or is not a weapon was not the point, as I read it. I understood the point of the question to be whether or not the 2nd Amendment applies to States.

Short answer, it does not. The 2nd Amendment applies to the Federal Government. The milita clause, and the statement about the poeple's right are explanation for why the Feds shall not infringe that right.

Every state has in their state constitution, a section affirming the people right to arms. In some cases, it uses the language used in the Federal Constitution. In other cases, the language is similar, but different. That section of the State constitution is what is relevant to the state case, not the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

And FYI, the story as I heard it was that hundreds of years ago, when the Japanese took over Okinawa, they banned the peasants from having weapons. Swords, spears, and bows. The Okinawans delveoped a martial art using the rice thresher (now known as nunchaku), because, since it was a farm tool (and needed to harvest the rice the Japanese ate) it was not banned.
 
The Second Amendment MIGHT apply to the states, if it is incorporated by the 14th. Now we need another Circuit Court to declare it does apply, we have a conflict, and, the Supreme Court will likely rule
 
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