SD9VE vs XD Service Model 9mm?

Which is a more reliable gun?

  • SD9VE

    Votes: 20 40.0%
  • XD Service Model (4" barrel) 9mm

    Votes: 31 62.0%

  • Total voters
    50

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Does anyone own or have regular experience with the SD9VE and XD Service Model (4" barrel) 9mm?

I'm considering getting a polymer framed 9mm and have whittled the list down to these two. They seem pretty comparable spec wise. About the same size, same capacity, but there is about $100 difference in price.

So is the XD $100 better? I have no problem with paying extra for functional quality, but I don't want to pay extra for popularity, image or manufacturer's pride. If both guns are functionally equivalent then that's $100 I can put towards mags and ammo.

This may end up being a carry gun, or car gun or HD gun, if I really like it. It needs to be reliable as job #1.
 
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As much as I'm not a fan of the XD, I would choose it over the SD. However, if I were you, I'd look harder at the M&P 9.

SD9VE - $299

XD 9mm Service (Essentials Package) - $357.99

M&P 9 - $399


I would go for the M&P all day long, but if you're really firm between those 2, the XD is a better gun.
 
So is the XD $100 better? I have no problem with paying extra for functional quality, but I don't want to pay extra for popularity, image or manufacturer's pride. If both guns are functionally equivalent then that's $100 I can put towards mags and ammo.
My opinion YES. I consider the SD9VE to be S&W's bottom of the line. If you want a S&W then I would consider the M&P line. Now again in my opinion the XD and M&P can be considered for comparison.
 
Yeah palmetto state has the M&P on sale right now. It's a very good pistol, though the trigger isn't the best. Apex tactical makes a drop in kit that fixes that, and makes the trigger very good, one of the best striker triggers.
 
I don't know about the XD but I have a SD9VE. It is pretty much a Glock 19 with a heavier trigger and holds one more round. For people who are unhappy with the trigger, APEX makes a spring kit for around $20 to make it lighter and they make different trigger for about $40. I am happy with my trigger. It shoots just like a Glock 19 but with a better grip and it has a lifetime warranty. I paid $289.99 for mine because I missed the prior sale for $279.99. I would buy it again without hesitation.
 
So is the XD $100 better?

Look for the XD "Essentials" package. You'll save significant money by not getting some extras you don't need.

I have no experience with the S&W, but considerable experience with the XD, and that's what I would favor. Mine (both of them) have been accurate and completely reliable.
 
As much as I'm not a fan of the XD, I would choose it over the SD. However, if I were you, I'd look harder at the M&P 9.

SD9VE - $299

XD 9mm Service (Essentials Package) - $357.99

M&P 9 - $399


I would go for the M&P all day long, but if you're really firm between those 2, the XD is a better gun.
The 357 is cash price. Real price is more + shipping i believe.

But the essentials package is same gun, just leas accessories. I dont regret it one bit. Didnt want their crappy holster and the mags they had.
 
But the essentials package is same gun, just leas accessories. I dont regret it one bit. Didnt want their crappy holster and the mags they had.

Agree on the holster, but I'm not sure what you mean on the magazines.

XD Essentials I'm seeing is minus the (usable) magloader and useless holster, but does have 2 magazines.
 
The 357 is cash price. Real price is more + shipping i believe.

I was looking at KY Gun Co... 357.99 is the cash price... but that's easily paid for. I do an ACH transfer with my bank and you get the cash price. Shipping is free.
 
Lots of folks saying XD (and M&P) is better, but nobody saying why (except the trigger).


The trigger really is the biggest reason.

The Apex spring kit for the SD line works at lowering weight a little, but it makes the trigger reset sluggish, and I had to tune the replacement poly trigger to allow reset when I installed one for someone I know.


The SD line isn't built poorly... But the XD, and M&P are better quality overall. The XD is built very beefy, but it weighs more because of it.
 
I said XD 4" Service length. I stumbled upon my XD V-10 4" in 9mm and I am sure glad I did. It has been one of the most reliable and fun to shoot guns that I own. I have more rounds through my XD than any other gun I've ever shot, with the exception of an old Marlin bolt gun .22 LR.

To me, XD's and Glocks and probably M&P's are just excellent lego-type guns that you can build up or simply leave alone and shoot as is.

But as far as my XD is concerned, the sucker just runs! Yes, I've had some failure here and there. I've blown a barrel out. I've worn my guide rod out. But these are not really the gun's fault. It's just part of use. I've got spare return springs, guide rods, spare barrel, tons of spare mags, multiple holsters, and I even bought my dad one.

For me, XD's point well and feel good in hand. The grip angle is more natural than a Glock's. Also, the non-factory trigger I have in my XD is awesome. But that is where I'd stop the comparison with the big guys, Glock and M&P's, because all of them can likely have good triggers. Glock triggers out of box are just slightly nicer and more predictable than XD triggers. But, if you are a nutter like me, you are going to replace or modify the trigger anyway on any of the three brands.

If you are looking at XD's, I'd steer you towards the 5" model for the longer sight radius, but it all depends on what you do with the gun. I think a lot of people tend to buy full sized handguns intending to conceal them, but I'd steer you away from this type of thinking. To me, full-sized handguns are the guns you learn to shoot with, then you can learn to shoot and conceal a compact handgun. If you agree with this logic, then you may as well get a 5" gun (or the respective longslides from Glock and M&P) because it will simply be easier to learn to shoot on a bigger gun with a longer sight radius. Also, I feel like if a gun is a better or more capable shooter it is simply more fun to shoot.

I'd say buy a XD 4"/5" in 9mm, then get an XDS in 9mm to carry. You learn to shoot on the XD standard gun, then carry the XDS. A 4" XDS would make a decent gun to learn on as well, but I don't know your expectations you have for a firearm. The trigger on stock XDS seem better than stock XD's. And they have upgraded sights fiber optic sights, too. The biggest drawback to getting an XDS instead of an XD is that you will lose round-count, but it isn't a draw-back if your primary reason to own a fire-arm is concealing. An XD might get left at home, where an XDS will (for me and many others) be more likely to make it into your every day carry.

Finally, XDS's are really not bad to shoot in the recoil department. I've fired the 9mm and .45 ACP versions and neither are bad. But, a XD 5" would likely be easier to learn on even so.

Also, there's my personal favorite, the XD 4" V-10 model. It comes with two rows of 5 holes cut into a "V" at the top of the barrel and through the slide. If you can get past the pressure and blast created by the porting, you will come to appreciate the lack of recoil.

M&P's have 5" ported guns that look pretty awesome, and G34's have open-top slides that you can drop a ported barrel into. I have a sickness; I know.

OH, XD(m)'s have good track records, design, and even a 5.25" gun with upgraded sights. Also, a good choice.
 
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I'm liking my sd9ve. the first trigger pull was harder but with every shot the trigger gets better and better. Some have said they have installed the apex trigger kits right away and then down the line removed as the gun got wore in.

The only problem I have with mine is I wish the slide was black.
 
I did not vote since I have no experience with the latter pistol. but my sd9ve was somewhat unreliable. it came with two magazines, both of which would put the last round in the mag at too upward of an angle and cause the slide to smash the bullet at a 90 degree angle in the chamber. all the time, everytime, no matter which mag. other than that the gun was reliable, but not a very good shooter. it had a sloppy slide to frame fit and a somewhat awful trigger. I do not regret selling it at a loss
 
I've both...or at least I had an XD-9 back in the day, and a SW9VE "Sigma."

Other than the trigger, there probably wasn't a dimes worth of difference. Being an old revolver guy, the trigger wasn't that big of a deal to me. One was just as reliable as the other. I shot one about as poorly as the other.

IF I was going to choose between them, I'd probably get the Smith & Wesson, and spend the extra $100.00 for ammo.
 
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