SD9VE a battle pistol

No one "plans" to get into a fight in a mudpit, but some folks do get into fights in mud pits and sand boxes; it is nice to know the gun has a good chance of working under adverse condiitions.
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There's adverse conditions and there's abusing the gun just for fun and profit. There's what's likely to happen, what's not likely to happen, and what is virtually certain to not occur. If you're not out camping during monsoon season then what a gun will do when you kept it in a bucket of mud for two days is very likely irrelevant. If you live in the midwest there's no point in making "will shoot when sand is dumped in the works" one of your criteria unless you let your cat hide the gun in the litterbox.

It's like the multi-thousand round tests- if you only have five 13 round magazines, what's the point in a gun going 20,000 rounds between cleanings without a failure? If you start with one in the pipe and all mags loaded, you can't go any longer than 66 rounds before a delay in the action... and if you have time to reload five magazines, you have time for a quick bore snaking and a shot of lube.

The question is "Will the gun work in the situations where it will be needed?" I've yet to find a situation where the S&W Sigma/SD series won't work. Again, are there guns that are "better" in some ways? Sure. Most definitely. But one of these will be more than good enough for virtually every civilian or police need.
 
The SDVE guns have seen some pretty impressive testing from a few users on pistol-forum. At the very least, they seem to run very reliably. I don't plan to get one because I'm not in a place where I need a budget striker, but it would be one of my first choices if I was.
 
I have owned a Glock 19, 26, and 23. The SD9VE is the equal of the 19 for all intents and purposes.

I have no complaints about mine, it's incredibly accurate, field strips just like a Glock, and has not had any reliability issues whatsoever.

S&W got this one right.
 
I know this is an old post, but.... it brings up some questions I've not heard addressed.

Early versions of what is now the SD9VE were close copies of the Glock -- and Glock took S&W to court and won. S&W subsequently made changes.

Just looking at parts diagrams doesn't tell me much, but S&W apparently kept much of the design that was similar to Glock, but went their own direction in other areas, like the trigger.

I've heard a lot of complaints about the SD9VE triggers, but have also heard that if you send the gun to S&W, they can and will make the trigger much better. (A local gunsmith who can do that might find a lucrative sideline.)

All that said -- has anyone really compared the two -- the Glock and the SD9VE in its current forms, to see what is similar and what is different?

And what is needed if you just feel you MUST improve the SD9VE trigger?
 
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TunnelRat said:
APEX also makes a kit for the SD9VE
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Humm.

Maybe if I stumble across a SD9VE for a good price, I might spring for one, and for an APEX kit. I've got those (and other pieces) installed by their prior owners on two M&P PROs [9mm and .40] and they both have very impressive triggers.
 
I've been very happy with the ~8 APEX kits I've used. What you're describing, trying an SD9VE with an APEX kit, was something I was seriously considering a month or so back but my funds weren't there. I'd really be surprised to see how good it can get.
 
I know this is an old post, but.... it brings up some questions I've not heard addressed.

Early versions of what is now the SD9VE were close copies of the Glock -- and Glock took S&W to court and won. S&W subsequently made changes.

Just looking at parts diagrams doesn't tell me much, but S&W apparently kept much of the design that was similar to Glock, but went their own direction in other areas, like the trigger.

I've heard a lot of complaints about the SD9VE triggers, but have also heard that if you send the gun to S&W, they can and will make the trigger much better. (A local gunsmith who can do that might find a lucrative sideline.)

All that said -- has anyone really compared the two -- the Glock and the SD9VE in its current forms, to see what is similar and what is different?
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My son-in-law and I compared his gen 3 Glock 19 and my SD9VE
a week or so ago. They are so similar that it is spooky. I know the trigger is different but we couldn't compare because he has an expensive aftermarket trigger on his Glock.
 
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