Savage Vs Remington..Im torn once again...

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Ok fellas need some more input. My final goal is to put together a .308 long range target rifle. Would like to have the most accuracy possible out of the box. I hear savage is hard to beat out of the box but have always been a huge fan and long time owner of the 700. Price is a factor but would be willing to bend on a couple of hundred bucks.My budget on the gun is $850 max. Help please. And yes Mr Tuttle I already know your vote:D
 
I have never owned or shot a 700 so I cannot help there.

I have had a couple (223) Savage rifles though and they were all very accurate. All were at worst MOA and majority under MOA with varmint barrels.

I would take a close look at a Accustock-Accutrigger model.

The following targets were shot with a 6x scope at 100yards. I know it's kinda apples to oranges on caliber...........
 
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I had a 700 BDL and it was very nice with a decent trigger.

I have a new Savage 10 and the Accutrigger is fantastic. I haven't fired it yet but just getting a feel for the trigger it's something else.

I think bang for buck the Savage is a great choice. I am pretty sure the aftermarket favors the 700 though.

Either way you should end up with a great rifle.
 
Aftermarket for the Savage shouldn't be an issue for most any item.

It's a tough call. We own several of each...

The Savage has a couple of advantages, the floating bolthead means you don't need to have smith lap the lugs for accuracy as you might need to with the Rem...

For me, the most obvious advantage of the Savage is the easy DIY ability to change barrels and calibers at the home bench, inexpensively and without the down time of sending it to the smith.

Boltheads, and bolt handles (if you prefer a tactical knob, etc) are easily swapped out on the Savage, not so with the Rem.

There seems to be a bit of a "movement" in creating switch-barrel Remingtons with a barrel nut, which can also be done.

Good luck, buy whichever model fits your needs at the best price.
 
I have owned both and preferred the Savage. I like the Accutrigger and tang safety. The barrel swapping capabilities are nice too. My .243 turned into a .358 Winchester without the need for a gunsmith. The Remington just didn't feel right to me, although it was a very nice rifle (BDL in .308).

And I'll agree with Dummy, I like Tikka too. I'm looking at one in 6.5x55 right now.
 
My opinion would be the Savage by far. I would list out all of the reasons I prefer the Savage, but most of them have already been mentioned. One thing not mentioned, or at least I didn't see it, is the great customer support Savage has. Their customer service just puts them over the top in my opinion. This is not at all the case with Remington.
 
I got my son a NIB Savage 10GXP3 in .223 for his birthday last May from Bud's Guns for $571 delivered. I figured for his first bolt action .223 he could learn on it and then move up. It comes with their great AccuTrigger, a budget 3x9 Bushnell scope mounted (one can get for $80-$90), rings, and even a leather sling with quick disconnects.

We compared it with the Remington models 700 and 770. We weren't impressed with the model 770 at all and the model 700 was decent but higher priced without the scope and it came with a more standard, heavier trigger. Further, all but the high end models had synthetic or laminated stocks which he wasn't interested in.

Boy what a shock at the range! After breaking in the barrel, I gave him some of my 68grn Hornady / TAC powder handloads I use in my 20" RRA AR. Nothing fancy about these loads as the cases are trimmed with a Dillon trimmer right on the case prep toolhead of my XL650 and then the Winchester commercial cases are reloaded.

I don't use the more popular and more expensive 69grn Sierras nor Varget powder which many claim is a more accurate (but not as powder measure friendly) combination and I don't inside chamfer, uniform the primer pockets, nor do anything special with the cases.

That said, my 26yr old son who's a new shooter was able to fire off two 5rd groups of 5/8" center to center at 100yds with it. The budget scope is decently bright and clear but the rifle's action and especially the trigger are wonderful.

I'm so impressed with the Savage, I'm thinking of getting one in 30-06, 308, or .223 for myself.

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My concern with buying a Remington was if I was trying to buy a bottom of the line model. The BDLs, CDLs and Senderos still get great reviews from what I've seen. I would fully suspect you'd be a very happy owner with any of those!

I like Savage, they are ugly but very functional and versatile because of the barrel switching. With a limited budget, Savage gets my vote even though they are kinda ugly. The less of a concern my budget is, the more likely I'd go with Remington.. or the new Winchesters, they've definitely caught my eye.
 
Flip a coin there both good, I like the Remington feel and the Savage triggers.
I will throw a wrench in this Ruger makes a very good rifle also, the action is a bit rough but can be smoothed out and the trigger is a quick and easy fix.
 
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Both are great quality as long as you go with their higher end models and stay away from the low end of each. Going to be tough to stay under 850, hope that is gun only without optics. As far as shooting both are reputable manufacturers
 
I don't associate Savage as a "budget" rifle compared to the 700.
For someone that wants to build a precision rifle- on their own- the Savage action presents a unique opportunity.

Buy the cheapest long or short action Savage you can get your hands on, or a used one (if you can find one)- and just keep the action. Buy a match grade pre-fit barrel - there are TONS of choices, from Shilen, Krieger, Criterion, McGowen, ER Shaw...and fit it to the action yourself. You get a barrel built to your exact specifications, and don't have the expense of sending it to the gunsmith. You sell the stock and factory barrel, and keep the action for relatively little cost. Even if buying a 700 for a precision build, the stock is gonna be replaced the same as the Savage.

I'm in no way comparing this to a "precision" custom rifle build- BUT- it is a great compromise for those that want a "semi-custom" precision rifle at a similar cost to a stock Rem. 700, and the satisfaction of having done the work themselves.

IMO, this a very lucrative niche market for Savage.
 
I don't associate Savage as a "budget" rifle compared to the 700.

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Short and sweet and to the point! Savage hands down!
I own 3 and I am about to buy my 4th.
You cannot buy a more accurate rifle out of the box for any price point that Savage offers a rifle in! All of my rifles shoot sub MOA!
They have excellent fit and finish with high quality machining and quality control.
Backed by customer service that is truly old school Americana!
A real person answers the phone and is willing to help no matter what the question.
:D:D:D
 
Both are great quality as long as you go with their higher end models and stay away from the low end of each.
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I totally disagree. I bought a $600 ($550 after rebate) .270 Win M700 SPS Buckmasters that is a super fine rifle. Trigger is sweet (3 lbs.) after adjusting. Shoots cloverleaf sub MOA groups all day long. Fits me just beautifully. Bolt is smooth as silk.

No need to change stocks, triggers or glass bed. It's as good as anything out there. If you want a deep, fancy blueing instead of the matte black finish or want a wood stock or fluted barrel etc, you'll have to pay more but I think I've got one of the sweetest rifles made.


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I got my son a NIB Savage 10GXP3 in .223 for his birthday last May from Bud's Guns for $571 delivered. I figured for his first bolt action .223 he could learn on it and then move up. It comes with their great AccuTrigger, a budget 3x9 Bushnell scope mounted (one can get for $80-$90), rings, and even a leather sling with quick disconnects.

We compared it with the Remington models 700 and 770. We weren't impressed with the model 770 at all and the model 700 was decent but higher priced without the scope and it came with a more standard, heavier trigger. Further, all but the high end models had synthetic or laminated stocks which he wasn't interested in.

Boy what a shock at the range! After breaking in the barrel, I gave him some of my 68grn Hornady / TAC powder handloads I use in my 20" RRA AR. Nothing fancy about these loads as the cases are trimmed with a Dillon trimmer right on the case prep toolhead of my XL650 and then the Winchester commercial cases are reloaded.

I don't use the more popular and more expensive 69grn Sierras nor Varget powder which many claim is a more accurate (but not as powder measure friendly) combination and I don't inside chamfer, uniform the primer pockets, nor do anything special with the cases.

That said, my 26yr old son who's a new shooter was able to fire off two 5rd groups of 5/8" center to center at 100yds with it. The budget scope is decently bright and clear but the rifle's action and especially the trigger are wonderful.

I'm so impressed with the Savage, I'm thinking of getting one in 30-06, 308, or .223 for myself.
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Exact same package I just picked up, only mine is 7mm-08. I hope mine works as well as your son's!
 
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