Savage 111 Rail
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If you bought this one, it says Round Rear right in the product description.
So i have a 2 issues. The Weaver rail is not Mil spec, therefor i will need to drill where the rings will be mounted no big deal but wasnt expecting this. The other issue is im using the nikon P22 or something rings and yet the eye relief is not where it needs to be and the rings are at the last groove of the rails, the rings are turned around to give me more room and yet the scope it is still about an inch to far. Should i cut the stock or are there rings that give me more than this ones? Thanks!!
No, it's not. It's a Weaver rail. There are subtle differences between a Weaver rail and a Picatinny rail.
The other issue (eye relief) is related to several issues, one of them being stock length. You haven't told us if you have a wooden stock or a synthetic, but either way, the stock needs to fit you, which is a personal measurement like shoe size. I know, for example, that I need a 13.0" length-of-pull on my rifles, including the pad. That's what works best for me, based on my shooting style, my body build, and my eye relief requirements. I normally get my stocks cut to match my requirements. I can work with 12.5 inches, but 13.0 works best. Longer stock (for me) cause problems.
How do i know or find out the length of pull for myself/body and style of shooting? It is synthetic stock which should be easy or at least take it somewhere where it can be refitted. The weaver i knew it was different from the picarinny just never realized i might encounter this issue, therefor next time i'll stick to picayinny for sure!!
How do you know your shoe size? You either get measured for it, or you try on different shoes until you find a size that fits. Over the years I've learned what length of pull I need, but I still carry a small tape when I'm looking at guns. If I put the rifle to my shoulder and it fits, I'll measure the pull to identify the length of that particular rifle.
Each make and model is a little different, based on the individual stock measurements, but I've learned over the years that I like a 13" length of pull. Then I've got to worry about comb drop and other issues that affect the use of a long gun. Stock fit is more critical in shotgunning than in rifle work, but a stock that fits is a joy to use, whether you're using a rifle or a shotgun.
Each make and model is a little different, based on the individual stock measurements, but I've learned over the years that I like a 13" length of pull. Then I've got to worry about comb drop and other issues that affect the use of a long gun. Stock fit is more critical in shotgunning than in rifle work, but a stock that fits is a joy to use, whether you're using a rifle or a shotgun.
The rail that was linked to has lots of options for where to mount a scope. It should work, and you shouldn't have to drill or cut anything. What scope are you trying to mount?
If you're using the Nikon p rings, those are made for an AR, and are higher than you want for a bolt action.
If you're using the Nikon p rings, those are made for an AR, and are higher than you want for a bolt action.
Well the WEAVER rail that i order fits fine but the rings are at the last position possible and backwards so there is no other way to bring the scope closer to me. The grooves on the weaver dont work with the screw on the P rings, the screw is bigger in diameter. Also the problem is not height rather then eye relief, scope is still to far. I have other rings but they would work even less, scope would be even further away!!!!
I've screwed up gunstocks by shortening them. I feel like if I had taken my time and done my homework, I'd have had better results, but the availability of a bandsaw and the need to remove an inch of stock got the better of me. I've also got recoil pads that look like they were put on by drunks.
Then I found a gunsmith who would shorten a stock and install a Pachmayr decelerator pad for about $50.00. That's good money spent. I bet that he'd also help you with your scope mounting issues. Find a gunsmith you trust and visit him. I bet that you'll be pleased.
Then I found a gunsmith who would shorten a stock and install a Pachmayr decelerator pad for about $50.00. That's good money spent. I bet that he'd also help you with your scope mounting issues. Find a gunsmith you trust and visit him. I bet that you'll be pleased.
My LOP came out to 13" and the rifle as you will see in the photo came to be 14". Also you will see the set up, not permanently bolted down since the screws for the rings dont work with the weaver, i will send it back and get a picatinny instead of drilling. The scope cannot be moved towards the rear any more both the scope and rings are at the farthest they possibly can be.
