Sample fired case came with Smith and Wesson N frame

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Ozzieman

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Several months ago I picked up a like NIB Thunder Ranch Model 21 Smith and Wesson 44 special.
Today for some reason I was going through the box that the gun came in (newer blue plastic box) and found a small envelope. It had the following:
Smith labeling
Address (in Springfield MA)
FFL number
Make
Model,
Gun type
Caliber
SN
Rifling Char (5 RH)
Collector/tech name
Actual signature
Date which was 10-20-04.
In the sealed envelope was a fired case.
My question is:
What is this and what stupid government required crap does this cover?
Any ideas???
And how do I get the job at S&W that gets to shoot every gun that comes out of the factory?
 
My question is:
What is this and what stupid government required crap does this cover?
Any ideas???
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You must usually buy used guns. How many NIB pistols have you bought recently? Every NIB I've ever bought over the last few years has contained that one test fired case. I have Rugers, Smiths, Springfields, Glocks and a Para and they all came with that envelope containing the empty shell case. Now, the few pistols I bought back in the 60s and 70s didn't have these empties and I have no idea when this practice started. I'm sure someone who visits this board could tell us when the practice started. I've always assumed the gun was test fired by Quality Control and the person who test fired the weapon signs off on the envelope and encloses the empty case.
 
The fired case is generally referred to as a Maryland case. When a new gun is sold in Maryland, the dealer is required to turn that case into the state ballistics lab for their database. If the gun is sold in another state, the fired case just goes to the consumer. Consider it a souvenir.
On an interesting side note, I don't think this program has solved a single crime since it's inception. It just gives the government something to spend our tax dollars on...
 
I do normally buy used guns other than a couple of Glocks and an HK P22 and a Beretta Storm carbine in the last two years and none of those had once fired cases in them.
I guess my point is that its one more thing that we have to pay for that does absolutely nothing to reduce crime but adds to the price of the gun.
Any idea what ammo will be going for same time next year???
Any one want to guess?
 
The fired case is generally referred to as a Maryland case. When a new gun is sold in Maryland, the dealer is required to turn that case into the state ballistics lab for their database. If the gun is sold in another state, the fired case just goes to the consumer. Consider it a souvenir.
On an interesting side note, I don't think this program has solved a single crime since it's inception. It just gives the government something to spend our tax dollars on...
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Personally, I'd like to see the firearms manufacturers collectively refuse to collaborate with draconian policies like this in Maryland and others in California, Connecticut and elsewhere, and not sell any firearms in those states, and not sell to law enforcement agencies in those states.
 
I do normally buy used guns other than a couple of Glocks and an HK P22 and a Beretta Storm carbine in the last two years and none of those had once fired cases in them.
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Rimfires and Rifles aren't subject to this regulation (yet). Rummage around in your Glock boxes, they should contain fired cases (unless your dealer pre-removed them for you:confused:).
 
ChicagoTex, I was told that the reason my Ruger .22 came with one was legal requirements in various states or counties *MAY* require it...
As for mine... it went in the trash within moments of arriving home...
Brent
 
I did check the Glock boxes when I read oldredneck comments, and I found them to be with out the fired case. Since both came from the same store who knows, but I will be there in the up coming week and will ask (not that I really care as long as they were thrown away).
Thank you all for your comments.
 
When I get a fired case with the gun I purchase, I put it in the bin for reloading the ammo. I only wish they put 500 of then in box with the gun. Then I'd not have to buy any brass.
 
HK P22??? Now I've been away from Hk pistols for a year or so and do try to stay up to date on thier stuff but what's this HK P22 you speak of???:confused: Not thinking Walther are you? Perhaps the P2000 or P2kSK maybe? ;)
 
Personally, I'd like to see the firearms manufacturers collectively refuse to collaborate with draconian policies like this in Maryland and others in California, Connecticut and elsewhere, and not sell any firearms in those states, and not sell to law enforcement agencies in those states.
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Many of them already do exactly that. You forgot to list The Peoples Republik of Massachusetts. Although they don't require a spent case be kept on file like Maryland, they have there own gauntlet of regulations that manufactures must comply with to sell guns here. Gun samples must be submitted for destructive testing to gain a compliance certificate in order to be sold in Mass. Many gunmakers won't bother with this crap and gave up on trying to sell their products here. That's why you can't get new Kimbers, Colts, Kahrs, Berettas, HK's, USFA's, Kel-Tec, Charter Arms,Taurus, Uberti's, Springfield Armorys, Glocks, CZ's, Wilsons, Brownings or Auto Ordnance handguns here. (there's more, but I can't list them all). We do get some models from Ruger, Essex, Seecamp and SIG, but not their whole line. However, S&W seems to have gotten all their models Mass compliant. I wonder if that has anything to do with where they're made?
 
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Several of my firearms have come with this fired case and it was clear the weapon was indeed fired once. I like this because it shows the company test fired the pistol at least once and it worked. I know nothing of state laws that require it to be turned it. I'm all against the anti-gun movement in the government, but I don't mind them being able to match a bullet or case from a weapon at all. I'm in favor of this for two reasons: I don't plan on ever doing illegal things with my firearms, so I'm not worried about it. Second and most important reason is that if one of my loved ones were killed or injured and the cops were able to catch the BG, without ever finding the weapon, I would be very thankful.
 
Except by the time a couple of hundred rounds have been fired, the markings imparted to the cases have changed from normal wear of the firearm.
 
“You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harms it would cause if improperly administered.” ~ Lyndon Johnson
 
Boys (and girls), those of you throwing those test-fired cases away are committing a federal felony. Under US Federal Statue 1233-42, section C those cases must be turned immediately over to your local firearms authority for storage and future comparisons else you face a penalty of not less than 3 years or $500.


(If that raised your blood pressure, think how easy it would be to pass this law....)
 
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