Thanks for all the advice guys. Some really helpful comments. From what i have read most prefer the Sako and some of the ones that dont, its because of the 20" barrel on the Finnlight. So that has really got me to looking at a Sako 85 Synthetic Stainless. Not alot heavier but can get one with a 22 7/16 barrel. I have a cousin that has a Kimber Longmaster and has accuracy issues with it. Sent it back and they said they did find some burs on the crown and corrected it, but when he got it back it wasnt alot better. He as tried every load under the sun with a wide range of bullets and 2.5 inch 3 shot group at 100 yards is best it has done. And I have read several forums with same complaint. I wish I didnt have doubt in the Kimber because it is somewhat cheaper than the sako. Thanks for everyones help.