dabigguns357
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I have no safties on my guns,3 revolvers and a 4046 .40 cal dao only,shotguns are fully loaded with one in the chamber and on safe untill needed.Infact the only safty is my finger and where it shouldn't or should be.
Safety on HD Gun
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As soon as I bring the shotgun up to shoulder, well as I bring it up to shoulder, finger doesnt touch trigger untill I see threat. Not worried about hitting anyone else, I live WAY out in the country and my wife is the ONLY person that would ever be in the house and she would be right besides ime in the bed peeing herself.
As for fumbling with the safety as some has said, on my Mossberg SPX I don't see how you would have to fumble with it, it's like right there.
As for fumbling with the safety as some has said, on my Mossberg SPX I don't see how you would have to fumble with it, it's like right there.
armsmaster270
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I carry a Sig It's only saftey is the loose nut holding it. Most Glocks are that way too.
I have had big name instructors echo what Rob Pincus stated. I have had other big name instructors teach to take off the safety the minute you clear leather. I have noticed that the instructors teaching what Rob states usually are carrying a 1911. The guys teaching the immediate disengagement usually have Glocks and are worried that you will forget the thumb safety under stress. Both ways work and have merit. Left to my own druthers, I keep the safety on until I am getting ready to fire.
External safety?
Does not exist on any of my handguns.
G22
G20SF
S&W 642CT
P229DAK (Duty gun)
The only safety that counts is the one between your ears. Keep your booger hook off the bang switch (and out of the little loop around the bang switch) until you're ready to go bang. Simple enough as is, no need to bring any other complications into the mix. Too many people rely on the external safety of their firearms to make them "safe". JMHO.
Does not exist on any of my handguns.
G22
G20SF
S&W 642CT
P229DAK (Duty gun)
The only safety that counts is the one between your ears. Keep your booger hook off the bang switch (and out of the little loop around the bang switch) until you're ready to go bang. Simple enough as is, no need to bring any other complications into the mix. Too many people rely on the external safety of their firearms to make them "safe". JMHO.
armsmaster270
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Quote JGCoastie
The only safety that counts is the one between your ears. Keep your booger hook off the bang switch (and out of the little loop around the bang switch) until you're ready to go bang. Simple enough as is, no need to bring any other complications into the mix. Too many people rely on the external safety of their firearms to make them "safe". JMHO.
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That's my take on it too.
The only safety that counts is the one between your ears. Keep your booger hook off the bang switch (and out of the little loop around the bang switch) until you're ready to go bang. Simple enough as is, no need to bring any other complications into the mix. Too many people rely on the external safety of their firearms to make them "safe". JMHO.
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That's my take on it too.
) I say let the 1911 guys worry about safeties. With my two P-229s I say: Safeties? We don't need no stinkin' safeties.jpoolsmyd2
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As others have posted, no manual safety - just the long DA pull. I guess the gunvault is a sort of safety, but that's a safety to protect the kids.
i just want to add my support for the no need for a safety on a defensive handgun, or any gun that is strictly a defensive gun. the dang thing don't go off unless someone pulls the trigger........after all, a gun is a lifeless piece of material, it has to be manipulated to work.
Hellbilly5000
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the only safety i use is my finger the safety is disengaged when i take my finger off the slide and put it on the trigger
scorpion_tyr
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My HD handgun does not have a "safety". I use my brain.
My HD shotgun has a "safety" and it comes off as soon as I have a firm grip on the weapon.
My HD shotgun has a "safety" and it comes off as soon as I have a firm grip on the weapon.
KnightZero
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My dedicated bedside gun is a Springfield XD - the safety is off as soon as I wrap my hand around it. Stays by my bed chambered and ready. If I have to engage with my carry gun, I will disengage the safety as soon as it clears leather. Either case, proper trigger discipline = no ND.
The Great Mahoo
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Most of my defense guns do not have safeties. I keep my finger off of the trigger and outside of the guard until absolutely needbe. Thankfully, that's never happened yet.
For DA/SA guns, they remain in DA mode. The only time I fire single-action is on the range. Hopefully, that is the only time I fire, regardless of action.
For DA/SA guns, they remain in DA mode. The only time I fire single-action is on the range. Hopefully, that is the only time I fire, regardless of action.
I am inclined not to trust a mechanical safety, thanks to ol' Mr. Murphy. While it has never happened to me or anyone I know personally, I have heard tales of weapons firing on safe and of weapons being 'stuck' on safe. I utilize them when traveling and the gun not on my person (i.e. locked in trunk) but otherwise rely on positive control of the weapon as my primary safety. At home I also choose the condition 3 safety off pump shotgun for many of the reasons listed here.
No manual safety to worry about on my Glock and my revolver, which are loaded and ready to fire (these are my "go to" guns).
My shotgun is an over/under and is kept unloaded.
My CZ does have a manual safety but I keep it with a full magazine, but no round chambered, in a desk drawer.
My shotgun is an over/under and is kept unloaded.
My CZ does have a manual safety but I keep it with a full magazine, but no round chambered, in a desk drawer.
KingEdward
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there is no safety on either of my .357 revolvers which are both HD guns.
one is snub nose (2.5 in barrel) and the other is 4 in. barrel.
they work every time and do not work or go off unless I pull the trigger pretty
hard (unless choosing SA shot).
No safeties, no clips, no "is one in the chamber", no "wait a minute BG, my ammo failed to feed", no sound give away to put one in the chamber, also have either SA or DA shot choice, no worries about the magazine springs, or whether the aftermarket magazine is sufficient, no clips falling out because under stress I did something wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I will not criticize any one for their personal choice. If one is very confident and adept with their HD weapon then that is the key.
Under HD situation if I have taken hold of the HD weapon, I want to be more focused on protecting life and if need be making good repeated shots on target. I want no issues AT ALL with other thoughts or even the remotest
possibility of malfunctions. Or thinking about when I disengage a button or does it go up or down, or is it already up or down in the dark.
Yes, I am aware of all the "revolvers malfunction too" stories. Neither my Colt or the Smith have ever mis fired or mis fed and as far as I know, I can
pull them out of the holster and they work. HD dictates nothing less.
one is snub nose (2.5 in barrel) and the other is 4 in. barrel.
they work every time and do not work or go off unless I pull the trigger pretty
hard (unless choosing SA shot).
No safeties, no clips, no "is one in the chamber", no "wait a minute BG, my ammo failed to feed", no sound give away to put one in the chamber, also have either SA or DA shot choice, no worries about the magazine springs, or whether the aftermarket magazine is sufficient, no clips falling out because under stress I did something wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I will not criticize any one for their personal choice. If one is very confident and adept with their HD weapon then that is the key.
Under HD situation if I have taken hold of the HD weapon, I want to be more focused on protecting life and if need be making good repeated shots on target. I want no issues AT ALL with other thoughts or even the remotest
possibility of malfunctions. Or thinking about when I disengage a button or does it go up or down, or is it already up or down in the dark.
Yes, I am aware of all the "revolvers malfunction too" stories. Neither my Colt or the Smith have ever mis fired or mis fed and as far as I know, I can
pull them out of the holster and they work. HD dictates nothing less.
Hellbilly5000
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The safety on my Rugers are rarely on, I carry one for work and the other is at home for hd. My #1 safety is my finger I don't put it on the trigger until I know I have to shoot.