This thread really makes a decision I am trying to make even harder. I recently went and shot a Taurus 85 and was impressed. I would have bought that gun before I even left the range. Its trigger was smoother than the K frame I was shooting that day. My problem is I have shot S&W all of my life. I have only had to use customer service twice and they were all "operator error" each time I offered to pay and was told no way. They sent me what I needed to get me back shooting. I know they will do the same in the future. I have called Taurus about a Rossi we have and they told be in a less than friendly voice all I could do was to send it in on my dime. I wanted a spring. Smith sent me a complete slide for my 22A. I have a hard time other than Glock buying anything but a Smith. Customer service counts.