S & W 386 Mountain Lite

dairycreek

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Has anyone had any experience with the S & W 386 Mountain Lite? It is a seven shot, 357 scandium-titanium combo. How does it shoot? At 18.5 oz I assume that the recoil will be substantial. I am much interested in what experiences TFL'ers might have had with this gun. Opinions are welcome too. Good shooting:)
 
May issue of Guns and Ammo hit my mail box today. "Proof House" article (by Payton Miller) on page 20-21. His conclusion is something to the effect of "a step forward in power-to-weight" ratio.

No personal experience to date with 396, but do have first hand (still stinging!) knowledge that its cousin - 12 ounce 340 - can be a real intimidator for most shooters. My opinion - shared by others - is that the double action trigger pulls on the new S&Ws have really gone south.

Time will tell, but the scandium frames supposedly should hold up better to lots of shooting. From my perspective, the extra bucks are often worth it - if shedding a few ounces for comfortable carry makes the difference for those who might otherwise just leave the thing at home ...
 
Trigger is about a 7 from a scale from one to ten, very accurate and recoil is stout. Very good all round defense gun. Light, ease to conceal and can cover a wide range of power. Street or woods. Have over 1000 rounds through the gun I have and experience no problems or malfunctions of any kind.
 
I have the 20 oz Taurus 617 Ti, seven shot 357 or 38 special. The SW sounds like something an ounce and a half less and several hundred dollars more. What's the point? I have found the 617 to have a good trigger and to be reasonably accurate in double action firing. In accordance with what many people have said, a few cylinders of 357 is more than enough with this medium sized revolver. After the stress of firing 357, my hand shakes and accuracy is out of the question. (38 Special is no problem.) My suggestion is to fire your bigger handguns first and finish off with 20 oz. .45's and 357's because after you fire hot ammo from little guns your hands are going to be in shock. A 12 oz 357 is ridiculous in my opinion.

Drakejake
 
I went out to buy one, and after trying the trigger on the two they had, I passed. One was gritty and the other had a "hitch" about 3/4 of the way back that was really obnoxious.

I think the gritty one would have probably smoothed out, but I would definitely "try before you buy" unless you plan on an immediate trigger job.

Other than that, I really liked the feel and balance of the gun.
 
Have not fired a 396 but have fired a 296 and have a lot of experience with a 342 with +P. The 296 is a whole different ballgame. The 342 is like having the web of your hand hit with a hammer -- really quick, sharp impulse, then gone. The 296, in spite of its light weight, was more like the usual recoil push -- a curve, more than a spike. I didn't think it was too bad.

I can imagine what a .357 Mag load would be like in a 340 and it doesn't make sense to me...
 
Many thanks for the info. Now another question!

Do you have any idea of what the cost of the 386 is in your area? The best I have found here (Northwest Oregon) is $599.99.:)
 
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I haven't shot one but I did hold one at the gunstore today. The trigger is different. Not really more heavy or gritty but just different! This store had a price of $600.+ on the tag. I quickly put the gun down! :eek:
 
Warriorsociologist

The ole boy had one with QC problems. Of course a guy over on ar15.com had a Glock brake a slide rail on its first outing to the range, so by that logic, if you get a Glock get a gunsmith to check it out thoroughly too.:rolleyes:
 
cuerno de chivo,

Hmmm...

My 296Ti needed work right out of the box, too. For this I pay $500+?

If you say "they just don't make 'em like they used to", it's because you're some rabid basher, I guess.

On the other hand, if you can't see any difference between, say, Frenchy's "new" 1980-vintage Model 27-2 or lendringser's 1980-vintage 25-2 and a modern MIM-parts, frame-mounted firing pin, lock-equipped, junky rubber handled, only-offered-in-round-butt, matte-stainless, non-pinned, non-relieved, non-QC-havin' Model 6XX, then I submit that you need to brush up on your knowledge of the wheelguns from Springfield.

If I wanted a $350 revolver, I would have bought a Taurus, rather than shelling out $500+ for one that's mostly coasting on a grand old name.
 
My 317LS and my 2 342PDs didn't need work right out of the box.
Stoic, ViLLain, and Tom B have given good reports too.

A 386 is a stainless alloy L-frame that weighs about a third of the carbon steel N frames that you listed. My wheelgun knowledge is fine, thank you.
 
So you say there is no quality difference between, say, a new 629 and a Triple-Lock? Between a new 627 and a Registered Magnum? Heck, between my '94-model 625-4 and my roomie's '80 25-2?

I guess the difference is that some of us are easily pleased while some of us have trigger work done on our Performance Center guns. ;)
 
I would put 2 of my listed J-frames as higher quality than my 63 no dash (J-frame) and 686-4 (L-frame, 7 shot). 1 of equal quality with them. My sister-in-law's 66 no dash (K-frame) as better than all them. And her 34 (J-frame) on par with my listed ones. At my dealer, I like the new 629-5 more than the LNIB 29-4. I had no chance to shoot the last two and could not tell that trigger pull was dramatically better in either. The 2 N frames were just as mechanically sound.
 
My 686 Plus has a trigger that is as nice as my much older 686. Different though, because of the shorter pull. But is is very smooth and the SA is very nice.

But there is nothing that compares to a smooth N frame trigger.
 
I guess the difference is that some of us are easily pleased while some of us have trigger work done on our Performance Center guns.

First of all, I'm not easily pleased--my chosen profession prevents it. :D My new S&W Performance Center revolver was received with a skeptical eye because of recent reports concerning alleged poor S&W quality read about here on the Firingline. I went over its construction, finish, and action. I had it inspected by my local S&W gunsmith and other wizened and graying range revolver junkies. My Performance Center revolver is a quality custom revolver and it came that way out-of-the-box. My revolver doesn't need any additional trigger work. However, I believe that S&W should extend this level of quality throughout its entire product line if it hopes to remain in business against its competitors. Whether my good luck is an example of a blind hog finding an acorn every once in awhile--well, who knows? I paid the premium for a Performance Center Revolver and I am happy with the transaction.

The older S&W revolvers certainly exude workmanship of a great degree in many examples, but older isn't necessarily better.;)
 
Of course, once upon a time, a Performance Center gun was as close as you could get to a guarantee the gun was perfect, right out of the box, in the world of over-the-counter firearms. These days, I've even heard the (admittedly rare) complaint about PC guns. I was looking at an L-Comp recently, and the fit & finish were no better than that on my '83-vintage 586. The trigger on the seven shot L's and eight shot N's is usually nice, yes, but that's partly due to the shorter throw of cylinder rotation and partly the lesser mass of the cylinder (the same reason .45 ACP N-frames have such juicy triggers).

However, all this talk about Performance Center guns misses the point; I darn well hope that a semi-handmade gun with nosebleed price tags is adequate out of the box.

The point is, that the average gun has fallen in quality; I've been working behind gun shop counters for a while, and seen it firsthand. Yeah, there are occasional exceptions where a particular new gun is better than a particular old one, but the overall trend is down, and it saddens me considerably. My 296Ti had a rough star and a seriously out of spec hand, a customer's 337 broke a trigger, a 686 had toolmarks all over it, a Model 640 had the barrel screwed in crooked, a 342 came back from the factory with buggered sideplate screws. This kind of stuff is the occasional flub you expect from a Rossi or Taurus, not the Standard Of The World In Revolver Manufacturing (and certainly not at 1.5x, 2x or even 3x the price of a Taurus or Rossi).

No Colt fan would get mad if you suggest that a 1991A1 isn't quite as nice as your average Pre-Series 70, but some wheelgun fans want me to believe that a MIM-parts flat-hammer 686 is every bit as good as a Registered Magnum. Odd.


(P.S. Speaking of "The Standard Of The World", I'm feeling parallels with a certain other American industry that got stomped by lower-priced imports because they expected customer loyalty to "keep 'em buying" no matter what.)
 
Time will tell. They better listen, and get them consistent. One unhappy gun owner tells a hundred people. A happy gun owner sometimes tells no one.
 
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