http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/rgrRH/
some info on the ballistics of the ruger alaskan.
some info on the ballistics of the ruger alaskan.
Ruger Super Redhawks are sharp lookin!
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44mag@ucnsb.net
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I would respectfully point out that recoil is subjective, what one person can't do is often done by another. I would suggest to anyone interesting in buying a large magnum revolver that they try to shoot the pistol before they buy it. Many large caliber pistols are sold on Sunday that were bought at a Saturday gun show right after the buyer shot it for the first time. : ) Have a great day everyone.
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perception
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Thanks a lot for the ballistics info. Seeing that makes it worthwhile to go ahead and pick up the 454. I think I will do that when I get my tax refund back. As far as recoil goes, im not particularly worried about it as I wont be shooting full power 454 too often, and Im the type of person who feels .44 magnum is a little underpowered. Not saying that I can get back on target quickly at all, but I like a gun that really lets you know when you pull the trigger.
BusGunner007
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perception wrote:
Well, maybe a look around this site will alter your perception:
http://www.garrettcartridges.com/about.asp
"Our ammunition is used by experienced hunters to take all the major species hunted on the planet. It is also widely used by professional hunters and government agencies, such as the National Marine Fisheries Service, the U.S. Geological Survey, and the Grizzly Bear Team of the State of Wyoming, for the protection of field personnel.
Our 310-grain 44 Magnum Hammerhead Ammo is the most powerful SAAMI pressure-compliant ammo available and provides penetration comparable to that achieved with the 375 Holland & Holland using solid bullets.
Our 330-grain Hammerhead Ammo is the most powerful 44 Magnum ammo in existence, and rivals the 454 Casull for impact-effect while producing far less chamber pressure."
After reading the whole site, I convinced myself to not get the .454 Casull for MY needs.
Yours may be different, but I wanted to share this information with others on the board, including you, that may have a misconception about how 'underpowered' the .44 Remington Magnum cartridge is...
Well, maybe a look around this site will alter your perception:
http://www.garrettcartridges.com/about.asp
"Our ammunition is used by experienced hunters to take all the major species hunted on the planet. It is also widely used by professional hunters and government agencies, such as the National Marine Fisheries Service, the U.S. Geological Survey, and the Grizzly Bear Team of the State of Wyoming, for the protection of field personnel.
Our 310-grain 44 Magnum Hammerhead Ammo is the most powerful SAAMI pressure-compliant ammo available and provides penetration comparable to that achieved with the 375 Holland & Holland using solid bullets.
Our 330-grain Hammerhead Ammo is the most powerful 44 Magnum ammo in existence, and rivals the 454 Casull for impact-effect while producing far less chamber pressure."
After reading the whole site, I convinced myself to not get the .454 Casull for MY needs.
Yours may be different, but I wanted to share this information with others on the board, including you, that may have a misconception about how 'underpowered' the .44 Remington Magnum cartridge is...
The .44 mag has been used for decades up here for bear protection, and there are plenty of guys that hunt bear with it.
My main concern was ammo availability and cost. A box of 50 240 grain plinkin' ammo for the .44 runs 15-22 bucks, with heavy "bear" loads running about the same for 20 rounds.
.454 goes for about twice that, and is nowhere near as common.
As far as power goes, the .44 is adequate and works, and you cannot deny that, sure the 454 is hella more oomfy, but I do not know if anything other than my wrist and ears is going to notice. On top of that I can afford to buy tons of ammo and practice, practice, practice. Being comfortable and familiar with a cartridge is almost as important to me than its ballistic characteristics.
Truthfully, in the end, a bear handgun, is like any other handgun, it is meant to fight your way to a long gun, and I would rather bet on my 12 gauge than on a handgun any day.
My main concern was ammo availability and cost. A box of 50 240 grain plinkin' ammo for the .44 runs 15-22 bucks, with heavy "bear" loads running about the same for 20 rounds.
.454 goes for about twice that, and is nowhere near as common.
As far as power goes, the .44 is adequate and works, and you cannot deny that, sure the 454 is hella more oomfy, but I do not know if anything other than my wrist and ears is going to notice. On top of that I can afford to buy tons of ammo and practice, practice, practice. Being comfortable and familiar with a cartridge is almost as important to me than its ballistic characteristics.
Truthfully, in the end, a bear handgun, is like any other handgun, it is meant to fight your way to a long gun, and I would rather bet on my 12 gauge than on a handgun any day.
BusGunner007
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Any pics to post yet 'yekimak'?
I'm anxious to see how your snubby turned out.
I still haven't heard anything about progress on my SRH refinish yet.
I'm anxious to see how your snubby turned out.
I still haven't heard anything about progress on my SRH refinish yet.
Here it is in All its Glory.
I have been having too much fun just blasting with it to really sight it in. Recoil from the 320gr heavy loads is pretty stiff. The trigger is somewhere in the 2 pound range in SA and the DA is really light as well. Needless to say, you know when it goes off. I can only imagine the .454 versions recoil.
My 'smith offered to buzz the front sight down a little, bit I like the huge day-glo orange millet sight he put on it. Now I need a decent holster, I'd hate to have to cut off a regular sized one, as I want the muzzle end enclosed.
I have carried it Mexican style in the SOB and it does carry better than I thought it would.
Sorry for the crap pics but I was in a hurry.
I have been having too much fun just blasting with it to really sight it in. Recoil from the 320gr heavy loads is pretty stiff. The trigger is somewhere in the 2 pound range in SA and the DA is really light as well. Needless to say, you know when it goes off. I can only imagine the .454 versions recoil.
My 'smith offered to buzz the front sight down a little, bit I like the huge day-glo orange millet sight he put on it. Now I need a decent holster, I'd hate to have to cut off a regular sized one, as I want the muzzle end enclosed.
I have carried it Mexican style in the SOB and it does carry better than I thought it would.
Sorry for the crap pics but I was in a hurry.
Here it is in All its Glory.
I have been having too much fun just blasting with it to really sight it in. Recoil from the 320gr heavy loads is pretty stiff. The trigger is somewhere in the 2 pound range in SA and the DA is really light as well. Needless to say, you know when it goes off. I can only imagine the .454 versions recoil.
My 'smith offered to buzz the front sight down a little, bit I like the huge day-glo orange millet sight he put on it. Now I need a decent holster, I'd hate to have to cut off a regular sized one, as I want the muzzle end enclosed.
I have carried it Mexican style in the SOB and it does carry better than I thought it would.
Sorry for the crap pics but I was in a hurry, and I just realized that my 18 month old son did some horrible things to the lens of my camera, looks like ice cream...
I have been having too much fun just blasting with it to really sight it in. Recoil from the 320gr heavy loads is pretty stiff. The trigger is somewhere in the 2 pound range in SA and the DA is really light as well. Needless to say, you know when it goes off. I can only imagine the .454 versions recoil.
My 'smith offered to buzz the front sight down a little, bit I like the huge day-glo orange millet sight he put on it. Now I need a decent holster, I'd hate to have to cut off a regular sized one, as I want the muzzle end enclosed.
I have carried it Mexican style in the SOB and it does carry better than I thought it would.
Sorry for the crap pics but I was in a hurry, and I just realized that my 18 month old son did some horrible things to the lens of my camera, looks like ice cream...
BusGunner007
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SNUB-OLA! 
Man, that thing is short!
It looks like you 'could' put the rings on it with a red-dot --- maybe.
I like it. Nice job, yekimak.
Somebody here will say it's, (you know), aesthetically challenged...
If you wanted to cut down the grip size for SOB carry, the GP-100 fixed-sight models had a shorter factory grip, and I 'think' the SP-101 black plastic panels fit into them. Just an idea for you.
I got word today that my SRH will be started NEXT WEEK.
It may be ungainly to some, but it's about to get a heavy hit with the UGLY STICK!
I'll be back for my own forum abuse in a few weeks...
Man, that thing is short!
It looks like you 'could' put the rings on it with a red-dot --- maybe.
I like it. Nice job, yekimak.
Somebody here will say it's, (you know), aesthetically challenged...
If you wanted to cut down the grip size for SOB carry, the GP-100 fixed-sight models had a shorter factory grip, and I 'think' the SP-101 black plastic panels fit into them. Just an idea for you.
I got word today that my SRH will be started NEXT WEEK.
It may be ungainly to some, but it's about to get a heavy hit with the UGLY STICK!
I'll be back for my own forum abuse in a few weeks...
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beautiful rugers.
New to these boards, greetings everyone.
Always thought of Ruger DAs as ugly and utilitarian guns until I saw these. If I ever do buy one they are going to Gary Reeder to work on. One day, if the stars align properly.... take care all.
New to these boards, greetings everyone.
Always thought of Ruger DAs as ugly and utilitarian guns until I saw these. If I ever do buy one they are going to Gary Reeder to work on. One day, if the stars align properly.... take care all.
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My 'smith placed the front sight dovetail just forward enough to use the factory rings...not that I could think of anything I would want to put on it.
I like it, it is fun, and ammo is cheaper than .454. I am sure I'll bitch that it ain't potent enough sooner or later, but for now I am happy.
BTW Aaron at Gator Guns in Kenai Alaska is a pretty awesome 'smith. He can and does do everything, revolvers (he has done a bunch of redhawks where he rounded the butt...OMG they feel nice) Custom rifles, etc...and on top of that he puts up with my crap.
I like it, it is fun, and ammo is cheaper than .454. I am sure I'll bitch that it ain't potent enough sooner or later, but for now I am happy.
BTW Aaron at Gator Guns in Kenai Alaska is a pretty awesome 'smith. He can and does do everything, revolvers (he has done a bunch of redhawks where he rounded the butt...OMG they feel nice) Custom rifles, etc...and on top of that he puts up with my crap.
perception, have you ever seen the footage of Ted Nugent putting down a disgruntled Cape Buffalo with his Glock 10mm? It might give you more food for thought before abandoning the thought of a 10mm for protection against big nasties.
I think that Taurus, Ruger, and S&W have sold at least three "bear guns" apiece for every grizzly and Kodiak bear in North America, which is fine, since the standard should be one apiece for everyone who wants a "bear gun".
Personally, I like my revolvers a little more "svelte", preferring a Redhawk to a Super Redhawk, and the old Security-Six to the newer GP-100. I am waiting for the next generation big bore to surpass the Ruger compact rifle or the Model 94 Winchester in weight.
I think that Taurus, Ruger, and S&W have sold at least three "bear guns" apiece for every grizzly and Kodiak bear in North America, which is fine, since the standard should be one apiece for everyone who wants a "bear gun".
Personally, I like my revolvers a little more "svelte", preferring a Redhawk to a Super Redhawk, and the old Security-Six to the newer GP-100. I am waiting for the next generation big bore to surpass the Ruger compact rifle or the Model 94 Winchester in weight.