Ruger Sr1911 Lightweight CMD Questions

Jack Falcon

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So I have been considering picking up a commander size 1911 when I noticed the lightweight model by Ruger. I love the look of it and the weight is pretty nice. My only concern is the aluminum frame. I would be shooting it on a regular basis (around 1k rnds per year). Would this be a poor choice? I would also be using it as a carry gun. Any comments would be appreciated.
 
I am sure it is a personal choice, but I would prefer the steel frame. I have both the full size and commander size and both are steel.
 
If you're going to carry it, you're probably going to run HPs. From what I've read, HPs in an Aluminum framed 19q1 have a tendency to bite into the ramp and actually do damage over time.
My 1911 is steel framed and so are my friends so that's just something I've heard. I haven't ever heard of aluminum frames not being able to handle that many rounds though.
 
The ruger is one of the few exceptions to the ramp denting. The ruger's ramp is titanium so it doesn't damage it. Aside from the ramp issue, how would it compare to a steel frame? Would it crack?
 
The question is, how well will Ruger's aluminum 1911 hold up. They're way too new to say for certain. Aluminum 1911s from other manufacturers hold up fairly well, and 1,000 rounds a year really isn't a lot. With the feed ramp issue addressed I think the gun should last a good while.

The only other issue would be recoil. The aluminum framed guns shooting .45 feel more like a plastic .40 than their heavier brethren.
 
The titanium firing pin should be fine provided the ammo is not distorted or have hard primers. The 1911 normally has a very positive strike. Ruger's Mini Thirty (rifle) is known to have a weak strike compared to the AK.
 
Jack, If you intend to carry then the Lt Wt. version is definitely your choice. The weight difference makes it as light at some of the duty size polymer frames. For me, my steel framed .45's have become essentially range toys, much as I love them.

My son's Lt Wt Colt Commander, a series 70 vintage model, has well over 4000 rounds through it, both hard ball factory as well as hand loads. Accuracy has remained excellent, with no discernable wear. My own Sig RCS 1911 compact, while not an absolutely 100% Colt design, is close enough to be comparable. It too has a significant round count and shows no wear and retains the 2" at 25 yd accuracy that initially endeared it to me. We carry both on a regular basis, and that means all day. I've got mine on my hip now as I write this.

If you plan to engage in one of the alphabet shooting games where over a hundred rounds are fired every weekend, then an all steel model would be a better choice, but you'll find that toting that extra 6-8 oz of weight around is a RPITA, and I predict you'll cease carrying. Two of my LEO friends who have carried .45's, echo these comments.

JMHO, Rod
 
I have one and several hundred rounds thru it mine has been flawless. I
picked up a Wright Leather works holster and love the combo! I'd definitely buy
this 1911 again and hey if the frame does end up cracking Ruger will replace it.
 
SDF880,

So. . .which holster did you get? I have one of their holsters for a PPK and it is very nice. I would like to see tour choice for a 1911.
 
I don't think the all-steel, "combat" Commander configuration is enough more compact than a full-sized Government Model to be worth consideration.
As Col. Cooper said, "If I'm going to have full weight, I want full length, too."
I like my LW Commander a lot, but wouldn't have considered it as my only gun. As a lightweight alternative to a full-sized pistol, it's nice to save the twelve ounces, but I put the vast majority of rounds through all-steel guns, and put only 200-300 rounds a year through the LW.
 
Collected my LW Commander today after some range time with a Sig Traditional stainless steel Commander, and a Springfield 9mm RO Commander. I'm hoping that the Ruger will 'fill the gap' between the other two for everyday carry. Inspected the Ruger closely, looks good and feels great in my hand. After a thorough scrub and lube, back to the range tomorrow. :)
 
So I have been considering picking up a commander size 1911 when I noticed the lightweight model by Ruger. I love the look of it and the weight is pretty nice. My only concern is the aluminum frame. I would be shooting it on a regular basis (around 1k rnds per year). Would this be a poor choice? I would also be using it as a carry gun. Any comments would be appreciated.

The Ruger Lightweight CMD has a titanium insert serving as its feed ramp, you're very unlikely to experience any wear from JHP's gouging into the surface of the titanium they way it can with garden variety 6061 series aluminum alloy, ditto for steel magazine followers which are known to degrade 6061 series aluminum alloy feed ramps.

7075-T6 series aluminum alloy is just as strong and hard as the titanium, yet 8-10% lighter, but its more expensive. I doubt very much whether Ruger is using the more expensive 7075-T6 aluminum alloy simply because it's use would preclude/negate the need for the titanium feed ramp insert.

Aside from that, aluminum alloy framed 1911's are quite durable, 1,000 rounds a year is a joke even in the generally weaker 6061 series aluminum, Colt will not tell you what alloy they use in their Lightweight Commanders, but by not doing so they are telling us for certain that its not 7075-T6, because if they were they'd be bragging about it being as hard as stainless steel, nonetheless there are thousands of colt LW commanders out there that have 20,000 plus rounds through them, some will in have excess of 35,000 rounds through them.

Knowing that, and considering Ruger's use of a titanium insert as a feed ramp, its clear as hell they intend for the pistol to be a shooter, I wouldn't worry about a thing, and anyway Ruger has some of the best customer service in the industry, if you break the pistol they will fix it for you!
 
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I Have had my LW Ruger since last summer. It is a great carry gun. I have about 1000 rounds thru mine wadcutters, HP's, ball... 100% reliable.
 
Wondering whether the softer alloy is less likely to crack than harder. The use of a different material for the ramp is good? Titanium does scratch and can not be refinished like stainless that I know.
 
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Wondering whether the softer alloy is less likely to crack than harder. The use of a different material for the ramp is good? Titanium does scratch and can not be refinished like stainless that I know.

Titanium and 7075-T6 or 7075-T7 are hard, and strong, but like all such alloys they've very little toughness, which is what you I think are mistaking softness for. Toughness is what makes steel ultimately superior, its ability to give a little, makes it relatively flexible, and this in turn makes it very durable. Aluminum alloy has virtually no toughness whatsoever, its tolerances respond accordingly, its impact resistance is nowhere near that of steel. 7075-T6 has a rockwell C scale of about 52-54, which is quite hard, on par with some industry stainless steels, further, it can be hard coat anodized to a surface hardness of RC 70 or greater, this is very hard and durable, offering very good wear resistance, but its not going to respond as well to drops, and hard knocks, lubrication is very important to aluminum alloys.

Most of the issues with aluminum alloy framed 1911's are due to the feed ramp being degraded by sharp edged JHP's, which can gouge it, some exhibit this trait and some don't, yet ball ammunition does not contribute to the problem at all, and that is what we shoot the most, you should be able to fire thousands of such rounds trouble free, I would definitely steer clear of big gaping JHP's, with thin walled sharp edges that can cut, Federal HST's are probably not the best choice for extended shooting, and due to price they never will be for most. Its also a very wise practice to ditch all magazines with older type metal followers, such as those shipped off with every Colt pistol, I use nothing but Wilson and Metalform. Other then that, just be careful not to go knocking your lightweight frame around, don't drop it, and keep it nicely lubed, you should have no problems with loads of shooting.
 
Been shooting a LW officers ACP for many years, no problems. HOT loads and all. I don't shoot many HPs so I cannot comment on that part.

6 + 1 grip size, 3.5" barrel. Accurate as can be, series 80.

Go for it if you plan on carrying at all.

David
 
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