Ruger Mk II ammo feeding problems

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madkiwi

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Hi guys,

Took my new (to me, purchased used) Ruger Mk II Competition Target slabside to the range tonight for the first time, with some Remington Golden Bullet HPs.

First 3 or 4 mags no problems. Then I had two magazines where I had 5 stovepipes, 2 misfires and one instance where the bolt was about 3 mm from closed.

I was starting to freak out! Then it fired off my last 4 mags with only one misfeed.

What do you think? Bad ammo? Or is it just something that happens with .22 semi-autos? I also took my Sig 229 and fired 70 rounds of CCI Blazer .357 Sig with no problems at all. In fact I have never had any kind of misfeed with my Sig.

Madkiwi
 
Run a few hundred of CCI Stingers through it.
Should be 100% with them.
Give it a good cleaning first!!!

PETman
 
I have occaisional problems with the Remington rounds too, mostly with failure to ignite!!! They are just cheap plinking rounds. I get them for $8.00/ 550rd bonus pack at Wally World. I would'nt worry about it to much until it happens all the time. ;)
 
Ditto what Denfoote said.
I like the Remington, because it's cheap at Wally World, but I get about one failure to fire, per 100 rounds.
-Stainless, KMK4-
Next time take about 3 different kinds of ammo.
Give it a good cleaning and lube first.

My money is on bad ammo.
One of the reasons that I like the MKII, is because it will shoot cheap ammo, but the Rem stuff seems to be at the bottom of the pond.
 
I had a mkII about 20 years ago (it was my first gun). It would regularly jam on Remingtons, as will my Marlin 60 rifle. CCI's would always run 100% in both.
 
Yes, Remington .22 ammo is junk. Apart from that, there will be a brand or two that your pistol really likes. I suggest some bricks of the relatively inexpensive Federal stuff from ammoman.com.

That Ruger will shoot for months with nothing but a Bore Snake dragged through it. But maybe you got it from someone who shot it for years without cleaning it. Might as well strip, clean, and lube.
 
Hey, Remington .22 works perfectly fine in my Mk.II. Accuracy sucks, so I just use it for plinking every now and then. In the last box of 550, I've had maybe...two or three rounds that didn't go bang when I pulled the trigger.

The only ammo I've had problems with is Winchester X-Pert lead hollowpoints. They get stuck right at the bottom of the feeding ramp.
 
I agree with the previous post that Remington ammo is junk. My club used to buy Target in bulk for us bullseye shooters but quit due to the large number of rounds that didn't go off. I use CCI Standard now (at least for club shoots - Eley for big matches) and had two stovepipes in a 60-rd match a couple of nights ago. Both were on the last target of rapid fire and cost me 40 points. Needless to say I didn't win that match.

I've had my MkII for over 15 years and have learned that when it stovepipes even once, it's time for a cleaning.

md2lgyk
 
It depends on what YOUR 22 likes,but my .22lr semis (S&W 422 & FEG SMC 22) love Remingtons golden bullets.I have problems using Federals bulk pack.:confused:
 
My Ruger doesn't like any Remingtons either. I had the same symtoms. I haven't had a problem since switching to CCI. Mostly Mini-mags, some Stingers.
 
I had FT Feed problems when I first got my MKII it turned out to be the magazines were coated with a sticky ,wax like substance and the tip of the bullet would drag I cleaned it with Hoppes then took a dowel rod with some very fine emery cloth wrapped around it and ran it up and down the inside of the mag and since then then no FT Feed's but I do get one to three bad rounds per 500 brick.

Hope this helps
 
My Ruger like the Federal 22s better than the Remington 22s.

It also jams alot more when oiled - about 1 feeding/extraction problem per magazine. Since stopping the oiling, maybe about 1 failure in 300 fired. Not necessarily a problem I'm unhappy about :)
 
Being mostly a revolver shooter, I had major misfeeds with MkIIs and buckmarks with competition ammo.

I got an AMT in 45 win mag, same problem, although that was definitely an ammo issue as well as a design/wear issue. Then I got the 10mm, and had the same problem. Most everybody said it was the witness, or the old "black follower" witness mags, or the ammo, etc. Found out I needed to relearn how to shoot with an auto. After a little practice, I get absolutely no FTFs, stovepipes, FTEs, etc, with the stock witness with stock spring, nor with these MkIIs and buckmarks I occasionally borrow at the matches.

You didn't say, but if you are used to an old-fashioned hogleg, it may just be you.
 
My MKII Gov't will not shoot the Remington ammo at all. I usually get 3 good shots per clip. I usually shoot Federal AE's with no problems and I have recently began using CCI Blazer's with no problems.

Ryan
 
Remington bulk pack .22 ammo is junk.

The problem with Remington and some other cheap ammo is the fact that the powder charges are not consistant. Too many rounds only have a half charge of powder and a few rounds in some lots will have no powder charge at all.

It does not take a rocket sciencest to understand that a round with a weak powder charge will not have enough power to cycle the action of an auto.

It should be clear to anyone that ammo such as this may group OK at short range but at longer ranges it will not group.

It should be clear to any shooter that has average hearing that Remington ammo is not consisant. If three rounds had the same loud crack and the fourth round sounds like an air rifle and that round jams the gun and is way out of the group it should be apparent to anyone just what just happened.

Fire about 20 rounds of Remington ammo and look at the brass. Out of the 20 rounds of brass you will find about 8 to 10 rounds that have a black stain near the case mouth. This is powder residue that leaked between the chamber and the brass. It did this on some of these rounds because these were the weak rounds. They did not have enough pressure to expand the case out into the chamber wall to seal off the gas. The rounds without this powder residue on the case mouth were full power rounds.

Use a digital scale to weigh about 20 rounds of Remington ammo. No two rounds will weigh the same because of the huge difference in powder charge.

If I had a dollar for every idiot that bought a new quality .22 auto at our local gunshop and brought them back the next day bitching and yelling at the owner for selling them such a POS I would be a rich man today.

You can ask them what kind of ammo they were shooting and they will look at you like is it supposed to make a difference?

Why I only buy the best, Remington.

You can load their new so call jamamatic POS with decent ammo and empty ten mags rapid fire without a single problem.

Still some of these nuts still demand their money back because everybody "knows" there is nothing wrong with Remington ammo and if their new gun was a quality gun it should work with " golden bullets".

Felons cant posses firearms perhaps idiots should not have them also.
 
I had similar problems to yours and I got on Rugers website and found the phone number for their auto repair center, called them and they said it is either your bolt or the mag catch(holds the magazine to high). They asked me what I wanted to do either send it in and they would fix it or do you want a new bolt and mag catch. got the new bolt installed it and She is nice and sweet now....doesn't stovepipe or fte.
 
Is there any other manufacturer that uses a very slim bullet like the Remington? I ask because everything else jams into the bottom edge of the feed ramp in my .22/45, this is with all four mags that I have. I've throughly cleaned the gun and replaced the mag springs and it still does this. I polished the feed ramp a little which didn't help. What gives? The Remington will shoot fine until I shoot about 150-200 rounds and then It'll start jamming. I've used Federal Lighting, Aguila. Winchester and Mini Mags. This ammo will jam right of the bat usually 3-4 rounds per mag. But the only thing that seems to run half way decent in Remington Thunderbolt or Target. I almost seems as if the feed ramp is to short. Hollowpoints jam the most almost always on the feed ramp.

I just bought some CCI Blazer to see if that'll work. And I'm going to pick of few boxes of Federal Gold Medal (should be the best right?) to see if it works.
Robb
 
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