Ruger mini 14, remove flash hider, yes or no?

[44 AMP]

I see you understand my point. IF it matters, such as the tools of one's profession, real professionals use the correct terms.

When I was in Basic training, one of the biggest "sins" was incorrect (by Army standards) terms. Different services have different degrees and sometimes different names for the same things. I've seen Marine training where even when speaking to an NCO the private was required to call them sir.

Call an Army Drill Sgt "sir" and after a sarcastic comment, you WILL be doing extra work.

If you use civilian speak, you're doing pushups, at the least. Call your rifle a gun, and be prepared for a long, very tiring day.

one of our problems today is people being too literal when they shouldn't be and not literal enough when they ought to be. A little while back a judge issues a ruling in which he compared an AR15 with a Swiss Army Knife. To me, and everyone else who read it (and had more than two brain cells) his point was simple and clear, and explained adequately in context. Those two items are similar in the sense that they are multi use tools and are common everywhere. That was his point.

However, the twittering yammerheads in the media could only focus on the "stupidity of comparing a gun to a knife" and berating the judge for that, in the process questioning both his personal intelligence and his decision. All because THEY weren't smart enough to understand what he meant.

I'm not perfectly precise all the time, I do use slang, and sometimes bad slang for some things, often, but not where it matters.

 

[rickyrick]

but is there really a point to a muzzle brake/compensator on a semi auto .223??

Not really for recoil,
My sole use on a Mini14 was to keep down the dust cloud when hunting coyotes. The device I used hard ports on top only, so it helped with that problem greatly.
Compared to an AR, the Mini14 can be relatively unruly due to the slam-banging of the heavy action. The device seemed to help, but may have been a placebo effect.

In the end, I found out that I had installed the wrong device for my Mini14.
Turns out the roll pin holes were not the same, so the roll pin was actually holding nothing, but it looked like it was. Makes this a funny story. The brake ended up just being pressed on due to the ineffective roll pin, I used the rifle for at least two years before it departed and traveled in the general direction of my aim lol. I failed at checking my own work.

I don’t think they are necessary for a .223, but the tactical Mini14 comes with a shorter barrel and a flash “thingy” on the muzzle.

In the army, the m16 bird cage was called both flash hider and flash suppressor. Later they had the “compensator” because they directed gasses upward.

It is slightly controversial for .223 rifles, but I think the correct device can give a little aid.


Back a few years ago, many gun enthusiasts claimed that weight on a Mini14 muzzle could improve accuracy by slowing down barrel flex.
The other agreed upon way to improve Mini14 accuracy was to shorten the barrel by an inch or two to make it more rigid.

Sorry about the long reply, I used one to minimize a dirt ball

 

[44 AMP]

In the army, the m16 bird cage was called both flash hider and flash suppressor.

I'd ask when, where, and who called it a flash hider, but it doesn't matter. I got told a LOT of crap in the Army that wasn't correct or true (even by army standards).

The basic problem is that people say BS and no one lower ranked can really correct them. Ok, yes, a private can, respectfully, tell an NCO or even an officer when they are wrong, BUT only once, really, and if the higher ranked moron chooses not to pay attention there's little to be done.

Department of the Army Technical Manual TM 9-1005-249-34 (Feb 1972) identifies both the M16 "birdcage" and prong type as "Flash Suppressor". I'd be willing to bet the current edition of the TM still does identify it as a flash suppressor, NOT a flash hider.

IF the Army's own tech manuals are not the correct definition, what/who then is?? Certainly not your supply sgt. Not even you Bn Cmdr. (though no one is going to tell the Lt Col he's wrong to his face...)

 

[rickyrick]

I don’t remember the official name actually, I just remember both terms, one of them was correct as that is the army way . I remember getting griped out for calling a weapon a gun.

Lower NCOs and enlisted made some wild claims about things that ended up being patently false

 

[WyMark]

When I was in Basic training, one of the biggest "sins" was incorrect (by Army standards) terms.

"This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun."

All is took was one guy in the platoon calling his M16 his "gun", and all of us stood on the line with an M16 in one hand and our crotch in the other, chanting that line over and over and over. Good times.

 

[44 AMP]

In the Army, "guns" are either machine guns, or cannon (and the small numbers of military shotguns). And, of course the slang term for a certain male body part.

The rigid focus on proper terms is part of the training process. Some things seem foolish, but "this is my rifle, this is my gun.." ..teaches, and does so, so well we still remember it decades later.

 

[jetinteriorguy]

Imprecise terminology in the military can lead to extreme disasters in the chain of command. It cost the Confederacy some major battles in the Civil War due to ambiguity in given commands, which were actually more like strong suggestions. It was considered pretty much an insult to give a strong direct command due to the insinuation that subordinate generals were too incompetent to do the right thing, plus a rigid command removed their ability to adapt to a changing situation which was very common given the slow communication systems of the day.