rossi ranch hand .44 mag.

Ice,
I'm not talking about going into the woods with an injured arm. :)
I've come outa the woods bunged up someplace far more often than I've gone into the woods that way. It's not something you plan, it's something that happens. Nice to be able to adapt when it does.

Bear startles you, you back up two steps, trip & fall on your strong arm, you won't be getting your Mare's Leg up & running anywhere near as effectively as you could with a revolver in your non-injured hand.

If the issue is self defense, the ML simply can't handle as wide a range of scenarios as efficiently across the board as a good DA revolver can, and not all such scenarios will present either a close-up hip-firing resolution or a leisurely longer distance resolution. That board will not be filled with a sufficient number of square holes to fit the ML's square peg to make it practical.

Bears aren't the only trail threat, either. Lotta strange people wandering around far from civilization & every year DBs turn up somewhere in the wilds. Not to mention encounters with ****** off mooses, encroaching wolves, and the occasional free-range bull that objects to your presence & charges. Threats vary from region to region.

The ML is also going to be more sensitive to cartridge OALs & bullet ogives, and it certainly can't be carried as compactly or as conveniently as a four-inch .44 Mag revolver.
I have a good Mernickle holster for my Rossi, but it doesn't ride in the truck conveniently on my body like my 4-inch Smiths & Rugers do. Holstered in the 2-seater ATV, very much an uncomfortable & slow proposition to ride with or get at in a hurry if needed.

The backpack-type holsters are OK for conventional ATVs without seatbacks, and/or walking on the ground, but not so great while trying to drive the truck with the rig between your back & the seatback. (I like to keep my handguns on my body when I'm wandering the outback.)
Whereas the holstered revolver on the belt doesn't cause discomfort anywhere & can be accessed in a hurry from a seated position on just about any type of vehicle.

Even on the ground, if you should happen to fall backwards & land on the rig while something or somebody's coming at you, you won't be able to get the gun out & into action while laying on your back as quick & easy as you could a revolver from a belt holster.
I've worked with a revolver from that on-the-back on-the-ground position as part of ancient LE training. It's do-able if you can get at your sidearm, ON YOUR SIDE, but trying to squirm around to unlimber an ML from a backpack-style is much more complicated.

I'm only pointing out where & why the ML concept is a poor one, compared to better choices.
If you insist on square-pegging it, it's your choice, just make it a realistic & informed choice, and understand its limitations.

I quite like my chopped Rossi & my Chiappa is very well made, but they'd only be used for SD purposes if they were absolutely the only gun I had.
Denis
 
While I do agree with some of your opinions, I am not going to try to dissuade someone from purchasing what they believe might be best for them for their own situation. Maybe they don't drive a truck, maybe no ATV, they have taken stock of how dense the wooded trails are that a bear or baddie can't surprise them. Perhaps he is camping and for some unknown reason he can't use a heavy pistol with significant recoil. My point is, the pro and con side could go on forever, but to dismiss it because it MAY not be a better choice for some isn't answering the question. That being, in essence, would it make a good camp/trail gun? As I have done it, I can say yes honestly. Not saying anyone else has or has not. Just answering the question about it.BTW, I would rather have an m249 SAW:eek: but wasn't asked that:D
 
Ice,
The .44 Mag ML IS a heavy "pistol" with significant recoil. :)

9b initially used the words "lightweight" and "compact", neither of which the Rossi is, unless you compare it to a full-stocked levergun, and as I mentioned- its handling is not the same.

9b asked for opinions & left it broad on what constitutes "self-defense" for him, but did mention backpacking and camping.
I've covered a wide range of SD applications, largely in the outdoors context.

For backpacking, the Rossi weighs 4 pounds empty. My heaviest 4-inch Redhawk weighs 3/4 of a pound less, fully loaded with heavy Garretts.

I've not said 9b shouldn't buy the gun, I've just responded to his initial request for an opinion, which I feel I'm qualified to give. :)
And, if he, you, or anybody else wants to use a less-efficient SD tool, just consider what it does give you & what it does not give you.

I make my choices based on efficiency, not emotion or cool factor.
How you make yours is up to you. :)

I've said my piece, can't add much more. If you want to use an ML for SD, have at it. :)
Denis
 
Thanks Ice..... I think I have on hand WW, Ultramax, and Magtech to try. I'm assuming .44 Russian may be a bit short to reliably feed.

I also have a ton of special brass but mostly Keith style SWC bullets for reloading.
 
The Ranch Hand is a Fun Item, a way for some of use to recapture part of our youth. I had a toy Mare's Leg, but I don't think I ever watched that program. On a par with a Buntline Special. For actual self defense use I would choose one of my M1894 Marlins, either in 357 Magnum or loaded with 44 Specials-the latter will give plenty of stopping power with lower recoil and quicker recovery time.
 
From what I've read, the .44 Russian is a different round. The .44 mag ammo I use is the Magtech. I would try the .44 special ammo from Magtech but haven't located any in my area yet.
 
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