I love how Cavuto tries to corner him and fails miserably.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxTBSUuTFL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxTBSUuTFL0
Ron Paul responds to the Critics!
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targetshootr
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You could tell the Great Giant Head thought he was loaded for bear but pulled out a squirt gun. Ron Paul is the only candidate who sounds like a decent person and makes a lot of sense at the same time. Well, throw Obama in there too.
targetshootr
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Where they stand on gun control is way down my list of things to worry about. I'm more concerned that they're not a bumbling idiot and they don't have personal vendettas against perfectly good dictators half way around the world.
applesanity
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That wasn't damage control; that was an affirmation of looniness.
I don't know how you watch arguments - Neil Cavuto had the upper hand the entire time. He sucessfully interrupted RP countless times, but RP never was able to put Neil down.
"But AppleSanity, that just shows that RP is polite and Neil is a bully."
By polite, do you mean... weak?
Look, it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong: what matters is if you *appear* right - that's what the american electorate wants. Someone with a backbone. That's what's separates a sucessful politian (and sucessful presidents) from the bench warmers. Think back to the Nixon v. Kennedy TV debate. Or even the Bush v. Kerry debates (BTW, Kerry ran THE WORST campaign ever. How the hell could he lose?)
Kerry: "I propose a commitee of foreign diplomats to congregate"
Bush: "Let's get them evildoers."
Bench warmers have lots of opinions - but they can't play the game.
My sister, who doesn't care jack ___ for politics, saw that video. That was the first time she's ever heard of RP. She said, "He looks like that friendly old teacher back in highschool that everyone pulled pranks on."
I don't know how you watch arguments - Neil Cavuto had the upper hand the entire time. He sucessfully interrupted RP countless times, but RP never was able to put Neil down.
"But AppleSanity, that just shows that RP is polite and Neil is a bully."
By polite, do you mean... weak?
Look, it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong: what matters is if you *appear* right - that's what the american electorate wants. Someone with a backbone. That's what's separates a sucessful politian (and sucessful presidents) from the bench warmers. Think back to the Nixon v. Kennedy TV debate. Or even the Bush v. Kerry debates (BTW, Kerry ran THE WORST campaign ever. How the hell could he lose?)
Kerry: "I propose a commitee of foreign diplomats to congregate"
Bush: "Let's get them evildoers."
Bench warmers have lots of opinions - but they can't play the game.
My sister, who doesn't care jack ___ for politics, saw that video. That was the first time she's ever heard of RP. She said, "He looks like that friendly old teacher back in highschool that everyone pulled pranks on."
Silver Bullet
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Donations to Ron Paul's campaign can be made here:
http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/06/help-more-room-.html
Meanwhile ... please feel free to make derogatory remarks. It helps keep this thread on top of the queue where folks can see it. Thank you.
http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/06/help-more-room-.html
Meanwhile ... please feel free to make derogatory remarks. It helps keep this thread on top of the queue where folks can see it. Thank you.
He responded, that's for sure -- by trying to explain it away. He might be better off just moving on and not trying to explain it, because he's just putting the spotlight on the loons all over again. He should fire his campaign manager because this thing has turned into such a mess. This is not the type of attention that wins campaigns. 
applesanity
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Most well-put statement of pure common sense today.
He should have fired the campaign manager for even allowing an interview with a website called "Rogue Government - Exposing the New World Order"
He should have fired the campaign manager for even allowing an interview with a website called "Rogue Government - Exposing the New World Order"
perhaps your right
but you dont think the people who subscribe to that website also vote?
why dont you just admit you have an unbiased hatred of the man and get on with it
perhaps your right
but you dont think the people who subscribe to that website also vote?
why dont you just admit you have an unbiased hatred of the man and get on with it
I don't know how you watch arguments - Neil Cavuto had the upper hand the entire time. He sucessfully interrupted RP countless times, but RP never was able to put Neil down.
"But AppleSanity, that just shows that RP is polite and Neil is a bully."
By polite, do you mean... weak?
LMAO so you consider the person who shouts the loudest and interupts the most the winner of the arugment? How old are you?
Look, it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong: what matters is if you *appear* right - that's what the american electorate wants. Someone with a backbone. That's what's separates a sucessful politian (and sucessful presidents) from the bench warmers. Think back to the Nixon v. Kennedy TV debate. Or even the Bush v. Kerry debates (BTW, Kerry ran THE WORST campaign ever. How the hell could he lose?)
Kerry: "I propose a commitee of foreign diplomats to congregate"
Bush: "Let's get them evildoers."
Bench warmers have lots of opinions - but they can't play the game.
^ If this is correct, no wonder our country is so messed up. "Never mind reality of the situation, lets just beat our chest and pat ourselves on the back reminding ourselves how great we are!"
BTW Bush may have won the election, but he will probably go down as one of the worst, if not the worst presidents of all time.
My sister, who doesn't care jack ___ for politics, saw that video. That was the first time she's ever heard of RP. She said, "He looks like that friendly old teacher back in highschool that everyone pulled pranks on.
Thats funny, the first time I saw Bush he reminded me of that spoiled rich kid in school, who's only reason for any amount of success was because Daddy had connections. That didnt keep him from being elected twice.
"But AppleSanity, that just shows that RP is polite and Neil is a bully."
By polite, do you mean... weak?
LMAO so you consider the person who shouts the loudest and interupts the most the winner of the arugment? How old are you?
Look, it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong: what matters is if you *appear* right - that's what the american electorate wants. Someone with a backbone. That's what's separates a sucessful politian (and sucessful presidents) from the bench warmers. Think back to the Nixon v. Kennedy TV debate. Or even the Bush v. Kerry debates (BTW, Kerry ran THE WORST campaign ever. How the hell could he lose?)
Kerry: "I propose a commitee of foreign diplomats to congregate"
Bush: "Let's get them evildoers."
Bench warmers have lots of opinions - but they can't play the game.
^ If this is correct, no wonder our country is so messed up. "Never mind reality of the situation, lets just beat our chest and pat ourselves on the back reminding ourselves how great we are!"
BTW Bush may have won the election, but he will probably go down as one of the worst, if not the worst presidents of all time.
My sister, who doesn't care jack ___ for politics, saw that video. That was the first time she's ever heard of RP. She said, "He looks like that friendly old teacher back in highschool that everyone pulled pranks on.
Thats funny, the first time I saw Bush he reminded me of that spoiled rich kid in school, who's only reason for any amount of success was because Daddy had connections. That didnt keep him from being elected twice.
Silver Bullet
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Don't forget to contribute to his campaign.
After all, a vote for anyone else is a vote for the same ol', same ol'.
Is that really what you want ?
After all, a vote for anyone else is a vote for the same ol', same ol'.
Is that really what you want ?
Can I have the "same ol" we had in the 90s? You know the "same ol" budget surpluses and low unemployment and strong economic growth? How do we get that "same ol" back?
Ron Paul is a radical who has publically declared he would make radical changes to the economy and govt services. I'm OK with some minor changes to the economy and govt services, but let's not get carried away. We've spent 230 years fine tuning this thing, and we are the wealthiest most powerful nation in the history of mankind, and we have a decent level of freedom too.
Seriously, radicals only win when things are radically screwed up, the executive branch has been screwed up by Cheney but that is temporary. I don't think a single one of the major candidates will screw things up as bad as Cheney has.
Whether we have Hillary, Obama, Rudy, Romney or some as yet undeclared dark horse they will only tweak a few things to make it look good and carry on as usual. This is a good thing, life is good for the average american why screw it up?
Silver Bullet
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We have low unemployment and strong economic growth now. The only reason we had budget surpluses "then" is that the administration in the 90s 1) was wise enough to let the programs instituted by Reagan "ride" unimpeded, and 2) was unwise enough to allow terrorists to gain strength and confidence, leaving it up to someone else to clean up.
I notice you didn't mention that the economic downturn started a year before the previous administration left office.
I also notice you didn't mention the AWB was passed in the previous administration, as well as bullying Smith & Wesson into a pitiful agreement. The present administration allowed the AWB to expire and didn't pursue the agreement with Smith & Wesson.
But this isn't about any of that. This is about making an effort to adhere to the Constitution. Ron Paul appears to be the only candidate committed to that. There are other candidates that are acceptable compared to what we usually get, but this is a rare opportunity.
I notice you didn't mention that the economic downturn started a year before the previous administration left office.
I also notice you didn't mention the AWB was passed in the previous administration, as well as bullying Smith & Wesson into a pitiful agreement. The present administration allowed the AWB to expire and didn't pursue the agreement with Smith & Wesson.
But this isn't about any of that. This is about making an effort to adhere to the Constitution. Ron Paul appears to be the only candidate committed to that. There are other candidates that are acceptable compared to what we usually get, but this is a rare opportunity.
I'm sorry, but I don't want any radical changes to how we "adhere to the constitution". I think the courts and congress do a relatively decent balancing act.
If the choice is between living pretty much how we've been doing for the past 16 years or changing everything to go back to some 18th century ideal, I'm not buying.
If the choice is between living pretty much how we've been doing for the past 16 years or changing everything to go back to some 18th century ideal, I'm not buying.
applesanity
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Okay mmafan - instead of pointing out why you're wrong, I'm gonna try a different tactic - I'll just show you how you're wrong.
Merriam Webster excerpt for "assert"
Ad hominem argument
Non sequitur argument
Ignoratio elenchi fallacy
Red herring/ "two wrongs make a right"
Um... just mix and match any of those links I already gave you.
Now I will quote STAGE2:
"Applesanity, that just means that Americans are asleep at the wheel!"
Welcome to the real world. Bench warmers are not invited.
Alright, now I'm gonna beat you to your most likely response: I actually like a good deal of Ron Paul's ideas. If I knew him in real life, I might just be his friend - he seems (gee I hate repeating myself) like a very intelligent, honest, and frank man. However, Ron Paul is not presidential material. More importantly, he doesn't know how to run for President.
Merriam Webster excerpt for "assert"
Ad hominem argument
Non sequitur argument
Ignoratio elenchi fallacy
Red herring/ "two wrongs make a right"
Um... just mix and match any of those links I already gave you.
Now I will quote STAGE2:
"Applesanity, that just means that Americans are asleep at the wheel!"
Welcome to the real world. Bench warmers are not invited.
Alright, now I'm gonna beat you to your most likely response: I actually like a good deal of Ron Paul's ideas. If I knew him in real life, I might just be his friend - he seems (gee I hate repeating myself) like a very intelligent, honest, and frank man. However, Ron Paul is not presidential material. More importantly, he doesn't know how to run for President.
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applesanity
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Too easy, too obvious.
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