Romeo Must Die

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Watched Romeo Must die last night. Pretty good movie. The gun stuff was ok, lot of chromed 1911's at least I think they were, that's what it looked like from the side, and some AR's. couple really god lines, but one relating to guns. At the beginning, there is a fight at a club and gun come out and the club owner and like 2 guys come out with ARs and the he says "Gun don't kill people, People with Guns kill people, and that's what these two guys are gonna start doing if you don't put away your guns." First time I've ever heard that not as pro-gun rhetoric. Thought you guys/gals might like that.

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Hey I would think it would be better if Juliet had an AR and refuses to let Romeo die :D. I haven't seen the movie maybe I will rent it this weekend.

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Miss D,

You won't be renting it this weekend, cuz last night was opening night. It's a weird Romeo/Juliet/ westside story (never seen westside story, but from what I know of the story it fits) plot. Normally I don't watch those types of movies, but I had to support the yellow (asian) people and the rappers (although I don't condone rappers turn actor/actress). Jet Li and Russell Wong are in it as well as DMX and Alliyah four people I like. It play to a lot of stereotypes, but at the same time makes fun of them. I didn't mind though, cuz I love the asian stereotypes.

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"Romeo Must Die" has got to be better than "Romeo is Bleeding". Anyone even remember that dog of a movie? Gary Oldman, Roy Scheider, Juliette Lewis--1994.
 
Anybody seen "Romeo and Juliet" with Leo DiCaprio and Claire Danes? Very nice custom guns on there. Interesting movie setting actually.

I'm a big fan of Jet Li, but I probably won't catch it until it's available in Blockbuster.
 
Heh heh . . . . yeah, I LOVED Romeo and Juliet. I know this makes me a philistine but no matter what I do, I don't get the same feeling from Shakespeare's brilliant dialogue in any other setting. I'd like to see Macbeth made with the same philosophy someday but you'd have to wait 'till Clinton was out of office or there might be a misunderstanding.

Nothing better than Shakespeare featuring pimp guns.
 
The Play by CJ Dennis
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'Wot's in a name? she sez...An' then she sighs
An' clasps 'er little 'ands, an' rolls 'er eyes.
'A rose,' she sez, 'be any other name
Would smell the same.
Oh, w'erefore art you, Romeo young sir?
Chuck yer ole pot, an'change yer Moniker!'

Doreen an' me, we bin to see a show -
The swell two dollar touch. Bong tong, yeh know.
A chair apiece wiv velvet on the seat;
A slap-up treat.
The drarmer's writ be Shakespear, years ago,
About a barmy goat called Romeo.

'Lady, be yonder moon I swear!' sez 'e.
An' then e' climbs up on the balkiney;
An' there they smooge a treat, wiv pretty words
Like two love-birds.
I nudge Doreen. She whispers, 'Ain't it grand!'
'Er eyes is shinin'; an I squeeze 'er 'and.

'Wot's in a name?' she sez. 'Struth I dunno.
Billo is just as good as Romeo.
She may be Juli-er or Juli-et -
'E loves 'er yet.
If she's the girl 'e wants, then she's 'is queen,
Names never count...But ar, I like 'Doreen"!

A swetter, dearer sound I never 'eard;
There's music 'angs around that little word,
Dporeen!...But wot was this I starts to say
About the play?
I'm off me beat. But when a bloke's in love
'Is thorts turns 'er way, like a 'omin' dove.

This Romeo 'e's lurkin' wiv a crew -
A dead tough crowd o' crooks - Called Montague.
'Is cliner's push - wot's nicknamed Capulet -They 'as 'em set.
Fair narks they are, jist like them back-street clicks,
Ixcep' they fight wiv skewers, 'stid o' bricks.

Wot's in a name? Wot string o' words?
they scraps in ole Verona wiv the'r swords,
An' never give a bloke a stay dogs chance,
An' that's Romance.
But when they deals it out wiv bricks an' boots
In little Lon., they're low, degraded boots.

Wot's jist plain stoush wiv us, right 'ere today,
Is 'valler' if yer fur enough away.
Some time, some writer bloke will do the trick
Wiv Ginger Mick,
Of Spadgers Lane. 'E'll be a Romeo,
When 'e's been dead five 'undred years or so.

Fair Juli-et, she gives 'er boy the tip.
Sez she: 'Don't sling that crowd of mine no lip;
An' if you run agin a Capulet,
Jist do a get.'
'E swears e's done wiv lash; 'e'll chuck it clean.
(Same as I done when I first met Doreen.)

They smooge some more at that. Ar, strike me blue!
It gimme Joes to sit and watch them two!
'E'd break away an' start to say good-bye,
An' then she'd sigh
'Ow, Ro-me-o! an' git a strangle-holt,
An' 'ang around 'im like she'd feared 'e'd bolt.

Nex' day 'e words a gorspil cove about
A secrit weddin'; an' they plan it out.
'E spouts a piece about 'ow 'e's bewitched:
Then they get 'itched...
Now 'ere's thew place where I fair get the pip.
She's 'is for keeps, an' yet 'e let's 'er slip!

Ar, but 'e makes me sick! A fair gozob!
'E's jist the glarssy on the soulful sob,
'E'll sigh and sprouik, an' 'owl like a love- sick vow -
(The silly cow!)
But when 'e's got 'er spliced an' on the straight,
'E crools the pitch, an' tries to kid it's fate.

Aw! Fate me foot! Instid of slopin' soon
As 'e was wed, off on 'is 'oneymoon,
'Im an 'is cobber, called mick Curio,
They 'ave to go
An' mix wiv that push o' Capulets.
They look fer trouble; an' it's wot they gets.

A tug named Tyball (cousin to the skirt)
Sprags 'em an' makes a start to sling some dirt.
Nex' minnit there's a reel ole ding-dong go -
'Arf a round or so.
Mick Curi, 'e gets it in the neck,
'Ar rats!' 'e sez, an' passes in 'is check.

Quite natchril, Romeo gits wet as 'ell.
'It's me or you!'. 'e 'owls, an wiv a yell,
Plunks Tyball through the gizzard wiv 'is sword.
'Ow I ongcored!
'Put in the boot!' I saez. 'Put in the boot!'
'Ush!' sez Doreen...'Shame!' sez some silly coot.

Then Romeo, 'e dunno wot to do.
The cops git busy, like they allwiz do.
An' nose around until 'e gits blue funk
An' does a bunk.
They wants 'is girl to wed some other guy.
'Ah, strike!' she sez. 'I wish that I could die!'

Now, this 'ere gorspil blok'es a fair shrewd 'ead.
Sez 'e, I'll dope yeh, so they'll think yer dead.
(I tips'e was a cunnin' sort, wot knoo A thing or too.)
She takews 'is knock-out drops, up in 'er room:
They think she's snuffed, an' plant 'er in 'er tomb.

Then things gits mixed a treat an' starts to whirl,
'Ere's Romeo comes back an' finds 'is girl
Tucked in 'er little coffing, cold an' stiff,
An in a jiff,
'E swallows lysol, throws a fancy fit,
'Ead over turkey, an' 'is soul 'as flit.

Then Juli-et wakes up an' sees 'im there,
Turns on the water-works an' tears 'er 'air,
'Dear love,' she sez, 'I cannot live alone!'
An wiv a moan,
She grabs a pocket knife, an' ends 'er cares...
'Peanuts or lollies!' sez a boy upstairs. ;)
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An' you 'Merrycans sez we Aussies aint got no culturial background!...LOL :D

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Uh yea, poetry is cool and all, but what about the KUNG FU!!!

I mean this is Jet Li, I want to see KUNG FU!! Now! :)
 
There was some creative fight
choreography in Romeo Must Die (mapped
out by Hong Kong cinema veteran film
maker Corey Yuen) but the typical MTV
style direction and editing often made
the action very abstract. A VCR or disc
player's rewind option are fine for such
nonsense but in the theater you only get
one shot at it...unless you catch a
repeat show.

The hand to hand combat included Jackie
Chan style inventiveness and at times
straightforward Sonny Chiba style
brutality (as in the kind of splattering
Chiba became popular for in his
Streetfighter movies).

I was glad the usually stoic Jet was
permitted to show some humor here, though
his relationship with Aaliyah was about
as chaste as Chow Yun Fat's pairing with
Mira Sorvino in The Replacement Killers
(Aaliyah had incredible lips that
practically screamed "KISS ME"). I didn't
see The King and I but wonder if Chow was
even permitted to, God forbid, touch
Jodie Foster?

Romeo Must Die even offered White
stereotypes. Talk about equal oppurtunity
offensiveness!!! Ahhh, big budget
exploitation films.

Prefer Jet's Asian credits to Romeo Must
Die but this newest film was a step up
from some of the HK/ American hybrids
(Replacement Killers, Double Team).
Jeff
 
All true, BUT . . . . what about the relationship between the fathers and sons? Better than usual. I liked it. I agree, though, there wasn't much there between Aaliyah and Li. And I would have liked to see more of both Li and "Kai" fighting. but that's just me. Oh yeah, and the "x-rays" were dumb.
 
This movie was obvisouly put together by white people who know little or nothing about chinese culture. There is not way in the world an Chinese father would allow his son to get killed, especially if he thought it was his only son.
I'm not angry about it. I just wish they would have gotten some input from Chinese people.

Wished Jet Li used his fists more. kicks get boring

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Just caught it last night.

There's a whole lotta scenes where he kicks multiple people while doing just one jump up into the air. The laws of physics are radically stretched past breakage. In each case you'll see one hand headed straight up and off-camera, he's clearly hanging onto a rope but they edit that out.

It's hilarious :D.

Jim
 
Just caught it last night.

There's a whole lotta scenes where he kicks multiple people while doing just one jump up into the air. The laws of physics are radically stretched past breakage. In each case you'll see one hand headed straight up and off-camera, he's clearly hanging onto a rope but they edit that out.

It's hilarious :D.

Jim
 
Yeah, I knew he was breaking physical laws, but come on, even Bruce Lee did that. It's unfortunate but real fighting is boring to the general public and they buy more tickets than I do. :D

Also, I realize the unlikelihood (hey, new word!) of the father letting his son be killed, but I figured that was the point--to make him incredibly evil. In Chinese culture, I know the family and the heirs are incredibly important, but is it true that NO ONE, even gangsters, ever breaks those traditions?

I thought the most disturbing part was the stereotypical treatment of large, fat men. We're people too, you know. . . .
 
Yeah, I knew he was breaking physical laws, but come on, even Bruce Lee did that. It's unfortunate but real fighting is boring to the general public and they buy more tickets than I do. :D

Also, I realize the unlikelihood (hey, new word!) of the father letting his son be killed, but I figured that was the point--to make him incredibly evil. In Chinese culture, I know the family and the heirs are incredibly important, but is it true that NO ONE, even gangsters, ever breaks those traditions?

I thought the most disturbing part was the stereotypical treatment of large, fat men. We're people too, you know. . . .
 
Hate to point this out here fellas, but the quote "Guns don't kill people, People with Guns kill people...." is NOT pro-gun. If you look at the logic, it is anti-gun!! IT is saying, if people didn't have guns, people wouldn't kill people. Just check it out -- it's right there.


Hueco
 
Hueco.

I think I have misquoted the like. Everyone who I talk to who has seen the move say it was "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

Don,
I'm just saying that it is highly unlikely for him to let his son get killed. But then again, we don't know what his son was doing.

Like I said earlier, I don't care that it may have been culturally inaccurate. You don't seem many asian men plan important parts in movies. So I'll settle for one step at a time. Next time they can make it culturally accurate. I really don't care.

I liked the like "I you get this guy some fat free water" and also I think one of the black guys says to Jet Li, "You're shorter than I thought" or something like that.

Other nuances that the general public probably didn't pick up, unless you hang around asian people a lot and understand chinese
They were from Hong Kong, a province which speaks primarily Cantonese, but they were speaking Mandarin, maybe if have snuck over from canton province, but they were speaking Mandrin with a Beijing accent. Which is much farther north.

Minor stuff that my friends and I noticed. Most people who watch this film won't even realize that the subtitles aren't entirely correct.

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