Rogers & Spencer .44

Since I'm a post whore and the weather stinks today I'll give you guys the good the bad and the ugly on this pistol.

First of all the trigger on mine is great! Sorry mec. I haven't fired it yet but using one finger to catch the hammer and pulling the trigger with my other hand it breaks light guessing about 4 lbs, no creep at all, it breaks like a glass rod. I would call this a target trigger. It's as light or lighter than my Rem or Colts.

One thing I disliked was after removing the grips I found that the inside of the grips were bare wood no stain or hint of any kind of finish on them at all.

The grip frame and trigger guard are removable via 3 screws which is nice instead of the 5 like a Colt. I was walking around with the gun cocking and releasing the hammer (simulated break in) and found there are some seriously rough edges on the trigger guard that can be uncomfortable with continuous handling.

I think the reason this weapon never gained popular acceptance is to remove the cylinder, 2 opposing screw heads have to be simultaneouly loosened. I accomplished this using the screwdriver end of a nipple wrench and a gunsmith screwdriver. On the good side however the loading lever and the cylinder arbor are all connected and remove together in one assembly.

The cylinder itself is a marvel! Inside looking down to the bottom of the cylinders they remind me of the combustion chamber of a Dodge Hemi, that's right, it's a hemi!:) The nipples are set off the center line and at a pretty good angle. The nipples themselves make Colt nipples look like garbage. They have a long threaded screw and a very well machined shoulder that matches a mirror finished spot face in the cylinder.

Then they cut an amazing shape around the nipple port that I think has to do with what mec was saying about the cap jams. It looks to my eye like they took a ball nosed endmill and positioned the cylinder on a 15 degree block and plunged the endmill down and in on an arc radius tangent to the circumferance of the cylinder. It's beautiful!!! That's all I can say, and it's very smart engineering.

When everything is removed from the frame the frame itself appears simple in terms of shape and easy to clean. They did a great thing with the hammer slot. The hammer is wide and has a lot of weight but they cut a very small slot in the frame not much wider than a cap actually, and the hammer is machined thin in this area accordingly. What is ingenious about this is there is no where for fouling or gasses to go except sideways up or down. This should go a long way to keeping dirt out of the hammer and lockwork.The hammer has a very nice diamond knurl with a "V" border. Very nice!

The front sight bead is cool, it's light colored brass or copper and it's easy to see. I think the sight groove in the frame is way to small, but I am witholding judgement until I actually shoot it.

To me it seems this gun was designed by people who were tired of the things that plagued Remington and Colt revolvers. The gun has weight, it feels much more substantial than the others. I don't know why but I think Ruger Blackhawk when I handle it (I used to own a .41 mag). I'm really glad this thread came along because I had no knowledge of the R&S and now I am the proud owner of one. If I had the money that Pedersoli sure looks nice!

Anyway Merry Christmas to all the Blackpowders out there and Happy New Year! May the new year bring you the best!
 
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Thanks for the information, marcseatac. I'm becoming seriously concerned about the domestic tranquility around here if I buy another gun right now, but....

Steve
 
a small nother thing. The spare front sights they sell on the Dixie GW site are threaded . This is kind of neat since most replicas front sights are just pressed in.
 
Merry Christmas guys: I also have a Rogers and Spencer BP gun in addition to my two Ruger Old Army revolvers. Before I bought it, I had posted a few questions on this forum but got very little feedback. Nothing bad mind you, but nothing great either. So it took me a while to guy it anyway since I liked the looks of it and since almost everybody has a 58 Remington, I went for the R&S.

I bought mine from Dixie with the target sights. Was pretty disappointed at first since the gun shoot about a foot high even with the rear sight all the way down. Called Dixie and they replaced it. The next one is great. Very accurate with 25 grain of Pyrodex and 777. It is a BIG gun, but I like it. To me a BP pistol should look nice as well and the bigger the better :p

Don't use a hoster for it since it is mostly for target shooting with my cup of coffee next to me on a quiet Sunday morning.

Also bought a Conversion Cylinder for it and again, with my handloads it is very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I make a light load of 200 gr L-SWC
with around 6 gr of Win 231. Works great, accurate and no recoil.

Overall I am very pleased with this gun. Not sure why it never caught on as much as the 58 Remingtons. To me it seems to be the better gun. Would be cool if somebody made one in stainless!

Overall I still think the Ruger is the better made gun but the R&S is better looking in my opinion. Both shoot very well so I can't really say which one I like better. Bought the R&S new for about the same as my used Ruger's in very good condition.

Happy shooting!
 
May not have caught on as big because there is a misconception that none saw use in the 19th century. Also, it is harder to find euroarms products than uberti and pietta. Nevertheless, the euroarms as well as the finwerbau are very popular among serious shooters here and in Europe.
 
Converted Rogers & Spencer

Here are photos of an original R&S converted to .44 American cartridges.
Jerry
 

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