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Revolvers Still good Military/police sidearms?
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Deaf Smith
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Good but not great. No revolver will do well in the sand box. No revolver will do well in firepower. No revolver will do well in reloading speed.
I would not cry if all I had was a revolver, but the modern simi-auto has many advanatges.
I would not cry if all I had was a revolver, but the modern simi-auto has many advanatges.
I've been carrying a revolver on police duty now for a year and a half after 12 years with an auto. I love it. Eight rounds of 125's with three moons in reserve does not make me feel undergunned for police work. Plus, I've got about 1500-2000 rounds through it with no stoppages. It's a little uncomfortable but very comforting.
Mark Milton
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Anybody who has seen the stopping power failures I have seen with the hot new .40 caliber should be kicking and screaming to have a .357 or .44 spl. revolver.....
Where I live there have been many LEO shootings where the suspect soaked up round after round of impotent .40 Short and Wimply caliber cartridges and kept on fighting back, kicking and screaming....
Heck there was a case where a local doofus shot himself in the leg with his .40 at the Wal Mart parking lot and DROVE HIMSELF TO THE HOSPITAL!!!!!
Which is why most of the bailiffs and court security people at the local courthouse stick to their .357s. Our sheriff may strap on a 9mm when there is a drug raid, but day to day he carries his Scandium wheelgun....
Law enforcement sales is all about being trendy. If revolvers got trendy again, you would see departments ditching Glocks in droves.
The thing is, movies and tee vee shows look more dramatic when you show some guy pumping round after round like a bullet hose and the bad guys acting like they were mowed down with a chainsaw ....
Instead of showing the good guy aiming a magnum or big bore at a bad guy and clobbering him with one well placed shot like in the 70s era movies....
Even Jeff Cooper admitted that proper training and a good wheelgun was all you need and that most cops would be better off with that than inadequate training and high magazine capacity spray and pray popguns.
Where I live there have been many LEO shootings where the suspect soaked up round after round of impotent .40 Short and Wimply caliber cartridges and kept on fighting back, kicking and screaming....
Heck there was a case where a local doofus shot himself in the leg with his .40 at the Wal Mart parking lot and DROVE HIMSELF TO THE HOSPITAL!!!!!
Which is why most of the bailiffs and court security people at the local courthouse stick to their .357s. Our sheriff may strap on a 9mm when there is a drug raid, but day to day he carries his Scandium wheelgun....
Law enforcement sales is all about being trendy. If revolvers got trendy again, you would see departments ditching Glocks in droves.
The thing is, movies and tee vee shows look more dramatic when you show some guy pumping round after round like a bullet hose and the bad guys acting like they were mowed down with a chainsaw ....
Instead of showing the good guy aiming a magnum or big bore at a bad guy and clobbering him with one well placed shot like in the 70s era movies....
Even Jeff Cooper admitted that proper training and a good wheelgun was all you need and that most cops would be better off with that than inadequate training and high magazine capacity spray and pray popguns.
the suspect soaked up round after round of impotent .40 Short and Wimply caliber cartridges and kept on fighting back, kicking and screaming....
I have to say I disagree. There are plenty of dead bad guys that would argue that also if they could. I imagine there are also some survivors who went down fast and believe in the .40 as stopper. I believe the truth is that from .38 special plus P up to .45ACP, in a high quality modern hollowpoint, the job will get done as good as can using a pistol round. There are so many variables to immediate capacitation that there are no guarantees when it comes to torso hits.
seeker_two
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Military: semi-autos or PDW's (FNH P90).
LEO's & other civilians: Anything they want to carry.
LEO's & other civilians: Anything they want to carry.
I do not have any Military or LE experience, but my neighbor George Statler most certainly does. Although he does not speak about it very often, he was with the Airborne Rangers in Vietnam. He was what was known as a "Tunnel Rat". Although he was issued a 1911, which is in my opinion the very finest handgun ever created, he chose to carry a Colt Trooper in .38spl. when crawling around in the dark underground trying to find the enemy. He still carries it to this day. He apparently used it to good effect and once told me he felt it was more reliable and easier to engage the enemy with in very close quarters. He has two bullet wounds, three Bronze Stars, a Silver Star, and a Purple Heart with clusters, plus a commendation from the Republic of south Vietnam, all displayed on the wall of his den, so I guess that he probably used the gun a few times.
I am fully aware that this sounds like some made up "Rambo" story, but I assure you that it is not. George is one of the finest men that I have ever known.
I am fully aware that this sounds like some made up "Rambo" story, but I assure you that it is not. George is one of the finest men that I have ever known.