UncleEd, I assumed the same thing. I'm passing through O'Hare whenever I'm there, so I don't feel too inclined to stop and talk about the 'good old days'. I am more concerned with getting through the TSA lunacy. I just hope they are proficient with them if need be. I hate not being in a position where I can protect myself.
Revolvers as a duty weapon today?
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Model12Win
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You discredit yourself with almost every post.
Model12Win
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This^^^^^^^
My town has some part time reserve officer that still carry revolvers, but they do more of the ceremonial work (funeral escorts, directing traffic or security at local festivals, etc.) They are usually retired from full time police work. One of the deputy chiefs carries a J frame snub around the station. Rumor has it that it might even be loaded sometimes.
Model12Win
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Either that or he knows how to shoot and doesn't need a bucket of bullets to get the job done.
"Real cops carry revolvers."
Security guard here, not a LEO, but spent a lot of time crewing an armored truck so it was "on the street". I figured any deadly encounter I had would be very close, and very quickly decided. I carried a .357 Mag (Buffalo Bore 125gr @ 1700) without worry. I had no illusions about whether there would be time to empty a high cap mag...or even a cylinder. I figured if I didn't shut an attacker down fast, I wouldn't be around to worry about an empty gun. It never came to pass, but it came awful close two times. I could reload in about 3 seconds when I was still in practice.
When I started out, the company would let you make payments on a Model 66 or the then-new XD 9mm, but if you were plumb broke there was an M-66 "Schmidt & Western" that they would loan you till you caught a few paychecks.
Now I am issued a Glock by another company, and I find it suitable.
When I started out, the company would let you make payments on a Model 66 or the then-new XD 9mm, but if you were plumb broke there was an M-66 "Schmidt & Western" that they would loan you till you caught a few paychecks.
Now I am issued a Glock by another company, and I find it suitable.
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I was a rental cop also, from 1999 till 2000. Of the several employees, about half carried .357 Mags with 2/3 being S&W and 1/3 being Ruger. Before I left though, only one was still carrying his snub-nosed Model 19 which he always scored "expert" with during the yearly qualification (trigger was sweet).
In 2000 I did a couple of ride-alongs with a local police officer (small town) that carried a revolver. He was an older guy with the "old school" mentality you couldn't help but instantly love.
He was the last police officer I ever saw pack a revolver but I'm not hanging out with them like I was back in 2000. You never see any in holsters on "Cops" anymore.
In 2000 I did a couple of ride-alongs with a local police officer (small town) that carried a revolver. He was an older guy with the "old school" mentality you couldn't help but instantly love.
He was the last police officer I ever saw pack a revolver but I'm not hanging out with them like I was back in 2000. You never see any in holsters on "Cops" anymore.
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Buddy of mine is Dallas PD. Still carries the S&W 66 he got as a rookie 36 or so years ago. He just trusts revolvers more than autos. He’s not a gun guy. It’s never not worked, he qualifies with it without a problem.
And, he gets more “Day-um! That’s cool! Man, you’re old school Po-lice!” Than you could imagine. That would be worth it alone.
He’s one of the finest auto theft cops I’ve ever seen. Chop shops, warrants, interviews. He can finish out without a plastic gun. I’m sure he’ll be fine.
And, he gets more “Day-um! That’s cool! Man, you’re old school Po-lice!” Than you could imagine. That would be worth it alone.
He’s one of the finest auto theft cops I’ve ever seen. Chop shops, warrants, interviews. He can finish out without a plastic gun. I’m sure he’ll be fine.
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Dragon breath
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I know that my local P.D. has at least one female officer that carries a Smith & Wesson revolver. She apparently has had limp wrist problems in the past and just prefers to stay with a revolver.
I was responsible for upgrading firearms for our department, when issued a weapon and ammunition the officer did not have the choice to carry something else. Personal backup weapons were authorizd but descriptions were added to the officers file should there become a need to know. Our issue weapon was improved as I could get the City Council approve the funds, Mod 15 to 66 to 686 and finally Glock 17 & 19 later G22 & 23 were in order. I have been retired for some time and have lost knowledge of current issue.
Johny Smith
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Not sure in the States, but in New York city 'seniority' can carry one but in time that will fade out.
Don’t often berate the police having served over thirty years myself, but, that officer needs to take a little pride in his leather appearance and possibly clean and oil his S&W revolver. Taking the choice of firearm away from the individual by issuing a particular weapon solves many problems particularly when trying to determine which weapon fired a particular bullet. The photo here may have been taken before a total changeover to semi auto pistols.
That holster looks like it has zero retention, something I'd be extremely uncomfortable with on the job. Most likely his seatbelt is what's destroying his holster.
I may have heard wrong, but didn't NYPD recently say that they are phasing out revolvers regardless of seniority?
I may have heard wrong, but didn't NYPD recently say that they are phasing out revolvers regardless of seniority?
That is the traditional revolver holster for the NYPD.
The gun is retained by a plug that fits into the trigger guard.
To release the gun the officer jams his hand down into the holster
and pulls it up, and yes his finger may well be on the trigger
but ADs were few and far between because of the stiff weight of
the trigger.
When NYPD started switching to Glocks the officers stuck their
finger into the trigger guard just like for the revolver and......ooops.
Or so the stories went.
As for the appearance of the leather, that sergeant has probably
seen more, done more, risked more than a lot of Sparkle Plenties.
The gun is retained by a plug that fits into the trigger guard.
To release the gun the officer jams his hand down into the holster
and pulls it up, and yes his finger may well be on the trigger
but ADs were few and far between because of the stiff weight of
the trigger.
When NYPD started switching to Glocks the officers stuck their
finger into the trigger guard just like for the revolver and......ooops.
Or so the stories went.
As for the appearance of the leather, that sergeant has probably
seen more, done more, risked more than a lot of Sparkle Plenties.
As of 2 years and 3 months ago, there were still less than a handful of officers at the agency I retired from still carrying revolvers.
Our agency is a Glock .40 agency, but those officers were grandfathered in after that policy change. They would have had to transition to a Glock .40 if they wanted to carry any other duty weapon.
Also, our weapons weren't issued, but purchased individually.
Our agency is a Glock .40 agency, but those officers were grandfathered in after that policy change. They would have had to transition to a Glock .40 if they wanted to carry any other duty weapon.
Also, our weapons weren't issued, but purchased individually.