thrgunsmith
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I am a native New Yorker, & I didn't need to read the whole thread.
You can not run away on a moving subway train, even being carefull
subways in the 80's were very dangerous.
Those thugs were out for blood, at that time young black men simply mugged white people for sport. For entertainment.
I hung out with a mostly black and Latino "crew" @ the time, one time a black guy in his thirties had a beef with one of us and all 10 guys I was having a beer with jumped him, I almost got jumped because I didn't join in!
They didn't "fight fair" they pummeled the guy into unconcisious for enjoyment.
They went overboard and didn't stop until the guy was knocked out, with teeth missing and probably broken bones.
They laughed about it for weeks!
"You got 5 dollars?" depending on how you say it, it can be very threatening, it was absolutely a set up, surround the guy and no matter what he says or does co operates or not , he gets stomped.
It was called "vicking" not mugging by the guys that did it all the time (from victim )
Goetz was doing what every newyorker, black or white wanted to do to the thugs roaming the streets and subways in those days.
As for plugging the thug after the threat stopped, thats the law of the urban jungle, what goes around comes around.
If you live by the sword and all that, Goetz had enough, if you're constantly beat down and NEVER GET ANY JUSTICE from the "system" you might just snap.
I really enjoyed the lull in harrasment when Goetz was on the run, you could ride the damm train without getting mugged and beaten up on.
You can not run away on a moving subway train, even being carefull
subways in the 80's were very dangerous.
Those thugs were out for blood, at that time young black men simply mugged white people for sport. For entertainment.
I hung out with a mostly black and Latino "crew" @ the time, one time a black guy in his thirties had a beef with one of us and all 10 guys I was having a beer with jumped him, I almost got jumped because I didn't join in!
They didn't "fight fair" they pummeled the guy into unconcisious for enjoyment.
They went overboard and didn't stop until the guy was knocked out, with teeth missing and probably broken bones.
They laughed about it for weeks!
"You got 5 dollars?" depending on how you say it, it can be very threatening, it was absolutely a set up, surround the guy and no matter what he says or does co operates or not , he gets stomped.
It was called "vicking" not mugging by the guys that did it all the time (from victim )
Goetz was doing what every newyorker, black or white wanted to do to the thugs roaming the streets and subways in those days.
As for plugging the thug after the threat stopped, thats the law of the urban jungle, what goes around comes around.
If you live by the sword and all that, Goetz had enough, if you're constantly beat down and NEVER GET ANY JUSTICE from the "system" you might just snap.
I really enjoyed the lull in harrasment when Goetz was on the run, you could ride the damm train without getting mugged and beaten up on.