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oldbillthundercheif

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Alright, lets see what y'all think...

One fellow posted his hunting experience on this forum today where he boasted of using a 9mm on pigs without checking that the exotic ammunition supplied by his guide hit anywhere near his usual point-of-aim. This is blatantly unethical from where I stand.

On top of that, it may have been illegal to hunt with a 9mm in the state where this took place...

Is it illegal to hunt pigs with a 9mm in Tennessee?

If it's not illegal, I guess I don't have a big enough problem with this to push it any more, but if it is, I think I should at the very least report it to the bar association of his home state (he is a lawyer at Fees and Burgess in Alabama), and Alabama's hunting regulatory agency.

I take illegal actions by lawyers very seriously, what do y'all think? Should we try to get this guy stomped to teach him a lesson or just leave him to his shifty ways and hope he shoots himself in the foot?

Speaking for myself, I guess it all boils down to TN law regarding hunting with small handguns. Any clarification on TN game laws would be very helpful.
 
I would strongly advice you to take what is said on any message board with a grain of salt.
 
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I have since given' up in trying to offer info to law enforcement... Karma kicks my butt everytime... I learned my personal karma will have me in trouble shortly after snitchin'... Plus the fact that snitches get stiches and snitches are a dieing breed comes to mind...
;):rolleyes:
Brent
 
Not all stories are true on the internet. A lot of guys flatter themselves quite a lot when they get on the forums. While we may view it as unethical and down right wrong, we can't stop them. We didn't see them in the act, otherwise we probably wouldn't even let it have happened. So just take it as it comes, say your penny's worth and be done with it. Tell them they were wrong and leave it be, and not to steal a post, but don't turn it into an argument either. It just makes everyone look bad all the way around. A level head and a proper response goes a long way.

F-C
 
On this one i would have to agree with thunderchief. If he is a poacher, he deserves to rot in a cell. You guys take up for him when he is disrespecting your own sport? I dont understand that at all.
 
If it matters so much to you why don't you look up the hunting rules and regs for TN and find out if it was legal or not? This thing we are using called the internet . . . you know, the one Al Gore invented.

Furthermore, it sounds like TN law enforcement should be involved if a crime was commited. I'm not sure that what you read on the internet would be probable cause.
 
No body took up for anyone...
I am not against a person using weapon of choice to hunt. Even the best shooter with the biggest round misses a clean kill sometimes... To me the only guaranteed clean kill is a point blank shot to the noggin or as I dispatch wild hogs with a knife to the vitals... I only meant in his thread to suggest the danger of shooting a hog with substandard caliber at unsafely close range.
Brent
 
Deer, Bear, Boar and Feral Hog Hunting

* Shotguns using ammunition loaded with single solid ball or rifled slugs. No restriction on number of rounds in magazine.
* Rifles, except those utilizing an artificial light capable of locating wildlife, using center-fire ammunition, in all counties except where regulated by legislative acts.
* Muzzleloading percussion cap or flintlock rifles, handguns or shotguns of .40 caliber (.40-inches) minimum. These muzzleloading firearms are legal during any gun season or hunt unless otherwise specified. Muzzleloading firearms are defined as those firearms which are incapable of being loaded from the breech.
* Longbows, compound bows, crossbows and other bows drawn or held by a mechanical device.
* Hunting arrows and bolts shall be of a barbless design and shall have sharpened blades.
* Handguns using any centerfire ammunition, except those with multiple shot, and having a barrel length of four inches or more, in all counties except where regulated by legislative acts.
* Weapons may be equipped with sighting devices except those devices using an artificial light capable of locating wildlife. Night vision scopes are illegal.
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The SR9 has a 4.14" barrel so yes it's legal. Google is your friend;)
 
I'm unsure, that's why I put it up for debate.:)

My instinct is to mind my own beeswax, but my grandfather was the chairman of my home state's department of natural resources and he drilled it deep into my hunting conscience that you should always report bad hunting activity.

I'm not prejudiced against lawyers. Quite the opposite, actually. I do expect them to know better than to break laws and act like jackasses.

Nobody has stated the legality of hunting with a 9mm pistol in TN, though. If it ain't illegal I guess I really don't care.

EDIT: I guess it's legal, so I guess I don't care.

I did dig around for the proper regs but had not had any luck so far...
 
DonR beat me to it.

The equipment used in the post in question is legal in The Volunteer State. If the animal was taken in a humane and ethical way, I see no harm done. I would only have a problem if the animal had only been wounded and not recovered. I think that the ammunition and caliber used were questionable at best and I personally would not reccomend the combination to a first time hog hunter.

However, having read the post and judging only by the information given in the post, I see no wrongdoing on the hunter's part. He had hunted wild hogs before and (apparently) was aware of the dangers that a wouned boar proposed.

I wouldn't tempt fate too much though. 'Tis better to have too much gun than not enough when you have a PO'd pig after you :D
 
Not all stories are true on the internet.
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Ain't that the truth!
My instinct is to mind my own beeswax,
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In general, that's a good policy, but if you got him cold, then bust him.
If he is a poacher, he deserves to rot in a cell.
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More than likely, he would get a slap on the wrist, possibly a suspended sentence. That whole "birds of a feather" thing, you know. Lawyers call it a "professional courtesy".
I have since given' up in trying to offer info to law enforcement...
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Seems to be about my experience with alerting F&G about poachers.
 
Repeat after me, "Our Father, this is the Internet..."

People claim to be from here, there or yonder. People claim to have done things. People claim occupations, they claim skills.

I won't claim, "I've seen it all..." but after almost ten years here I sometimes feel like I have. :D

Until you've been reading somebody's posts for some lengthy period of time, assessing consistency in claims or ideas, it's best to just keep the old salt shaker handy.

FWIW, Art
 
Sometimes when I come to my senses I wonder why I look over some of these net boards. Much of it stays in the entertainment catagory. There is a lot of foolishness out there.
 
Poaching deer in northern Wisconsin is known as "violating" here, and it is a "skill" that is handed down from father to son.

Now believe this or not, I have mixed feelings.

I hate slob hunters, as you know. Their carelessness and smug attitude show the non-shooting public that there is a faction of our sport that is a mob of drunken townies. Heck, I'd call the DNR on a slob hunter while he was standing next to me.

"Get off that phone, Chico! I have my boots off and I'm going to count to eleven and open fire..."

The problem for me is that I know many of the areas of northern Wisconsin. There are sections that are very hard pressed. Lots of businesses have folded. Many of those hunters are subsistance folks--they eat what they kill or go hungry.

If a guy like that violated the deer on his own land for the express purpose of feeding his family, then I have no problem.

The bubba who kills deer and bear for trophies is not in that situation.
 
The hog died in a quick, ethical manner. Give it a rest. If it was illegal you think one mistake is worth him getting debarred? You need to lighten up and just mind your own business. Now if you encountered poaching first hand I would report it without thinking twice, but taking a story you heard on the internet to the man's employer?
 
Poaching deer in northern Wisconsin is known as "violating" here, and it is a "skill" that is handed down from father to son.

Now believe this or not, I have mixed feelings.

I hate slob hunters, as you know. Their carelessness and smug attitude show the non-shooting public that there is a faction of our sport that is a mob of drunken townies. Heck, I'd call the DNR on a slob hunter while he was standing next to me.

"Get off that phone, Chico! I have my boots off and I'm going to count to eleven and open fire..."

The problem for me is that I know many of the areas of northern Wisconsin. There are sections that are very hard pressed. Lots of businesses have folded. Many of those hunters are subsistance folks--they eat what they kill or go hungry.

If a guy like that violated the deer on his own land for the express purpose of feeding his family, then I have no problem.

The bubba who kills deer and bear for trophies is not in that situation.
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What does this post have to do with ANYTHING we have been talking about? No one said anything about poaching. The question was if a 9mm is legal for hunting big game in Tennessee. IT IS!!!! You are beating the sh*t out of a dead horse and are way off topic. Give it a rest.
 
it's best to just keep the old salt shaker handy
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I agree!
and i just happen to have a salt and pepper shaker set for sale on another thread.
Sorry. I just HAD to .
back to the OP:
Unfortunately, even if the guy WAS doing something illegal, unless you were there and filed the complaint and agreed to testify there would be no legal action taken.
call your local authority and tell em " i read on a forum post that this guy killed a pig with an illegal handgun..." and see what they say.
 
Kingudaroad - Come on, man - to make it a credible internet story, a .380 auto is way too big for a griz - maybe change it to a Red Ryder BB gun, and you had to bounce it off a tree in order to get it down the ear canal to the brain...:D
 
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