Rob Pincus
New member
Well, I wasn't ready for what I was going to, that's for damn sure.
You can up my list of friends by about 200, and close-like-brothers-friends by 2 or 3, also.
A suspected, these guys are just your regular LEO's.. maybe a little more dedicated than the average, and definitely a lot more under the microscope.
They are crying out for Increased Tactical/Handgun training.. apparently the only "extra" training they get is in "Community Police" and "Verbal Resolution" and the like. Contrary to the impression some people are under, they do not get any SWAT or military type training for SCU.
Furthermore, I got in depth demo and description from several sources of a typical stop/search.. and they always begin with an interview, no jumping out from behind trees and ordering people up against the wall for frisking, etc...
I also found out a lot about where and when these guys are looking for guns.. they aren't standing in front of the NY Stock Exchange and throwing Brokers against the wall during their lunch break, if you know what I mean.
In an environment where there is no such thing as legal concealed carry and the drug business is rampant, it doesn't seem too unreasonable to ask a guy with a bulge under his jacket who has been standing on the same corner for three hours in the middle of the night if he is carrying a weapon and if he will submit to a pat-down.
In addition to Jim Fotis (Exec. Dir. LEAA) and Col. R. Brown (Pub. SOF mag), other speakers included a black reverend from Harlem and the Retired Chaplain of NYPD, Charles Kaladzjian (sp?). All the speakers made important observations about the thanklessness of a society that turns on its protectors. Of course, Col. Brown was colorful, but the Rev. Kaladzjian was especially so, he certainly pulled no punches when it come to how he felt about SCU, Sharpton or Clinton.. I'd go to church more often if there were more spiritual leaders like him.
As for Sean Carroll (the shooter who has hired his own lawyer), well, anyone who has a bad thing to say about him might as well be calling my mother a whore, because I'll react about the same. I spent about 30 mins talking to him alone and I met his wife as well. He is a hard working cop who got caught in a bad deal. You could feel the respect, love and compassion from his brother officers everytime they passed by or patted him on the shoulder. It was a very moving situation, and I am not a big softy, by any means. He made a mistake that anyone with a badge could've made. Now he is a political tool for Al Sharpton (fat racist bastard) and a victim of a thankless society which he has risked his life for years to clean up.
Everyone who has protested him and called for him to indicted or convicted of any crime should be thrown into East River with cement shoes. From Susan Sarandon to the clueless welfare dopes that Sharpton bussed in for the last protest rally.
Personally, I think we should take up a little collection for his defense fund. Sean has hired an independent lawyer and declined representation through the PBA out of an (understandable) fear that they may look for a scapegoat and the PBA would be under a lot of pressure from the dept. This is not a cheap thing for him to be doing.
I have the address for the Sean Carroll Defense Fund, if anyone wants it, or feel free to send a donation (made out to SCDF) to the FOUP address and I will forward it with a collection that I am taking up from local LEOs.
In case anyone has missed it, I am no longer objective on this topic. Please comment appropriately.
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-Essayons
[This message has been edited by Rob (edited April 22, 1999).]
You can up my list of friends by about 200, and close-like-brothers-friends by 2 or 3, also.
A suspected, these guys are just your regular LEO's.. maybe a little more dedicated than the average, and definitely a lot more under the microscope.
They are crying out for Increased Tactical/Handgun training.. apparently the only "extra" training they get is in "Community Police" and "Verbal Resolution" and the like. Contrary to the impression some people are under, they do not get any SWAT or military type training for SCU.
Furthermore, I got in depth demo and description from several sources of a typical stop/search.. and they always begin with an interview, no jumping out from behind trees and ordering people up against the wall for frisking, etc...
I also found out a lot about where and when these guys are looking for guns.. they aren't standing in front of the NY Stock Exchange and throwing Brokers against the wall during their lunch break, if you know what I mean.
In an environment where there is no such thing as legal concealed carry and the drug business is rampant, it doesn't seem too unreasonable to ask a guy with a bulge under his jacket who has been standing on the same corner for three hours in the middle of the night if he is carrying a weapon and if he will submit to a pat-down.
In addition to Jim Fotis (Exec. Dir. LEAA) and Col. R. Brown (Pub. SOF mag), other speakers included a black reverend from Harlem and the Retired Chaplain of NYPD, Charles Kaladzjian (sp?). All the speakers made important observations about the thanklessness of a society that turns on its protectors. Of course, Col. Brown was colorful, but the Rev. Kaladzjian was especially so, he certainly pulled no punches when it come to how he felt about SCU, Sharpton or Clinton.. I'd go to church more often if there were more spiritual leaders like him.
As for Sean Carroll (the shooter who has hired his own lawyer), well, anyone who has a bad thing to say about him might as well be calling my mother a whore, because I'll react about the same. I spent about 30 mins talking to him alone and I met his wife as well. He is a hard working cop who got caught in a bad deal. You could feel the respect, love and compassion from his brother officers everytime they passed by or patted him on the shoulder. It was a very moving situation, and I am not a big softy, by any means. He made a mistake that anyone with a badge could've made. Now he is a political tool for Al Sharpton (fat racist bastard) and a victim of a thankless society which he has risked his life for years to clean up.
Everyone who has protested him and called for him to indicted or convicted of any crime should be thrown into East River with cement shoes. From Susan Sarandon to the clueless welfare dopes that Sharpton bussed in for the last protest rally.
Personally, I think we should take up a little collection for his defense fund. Sean has hired an independent lawyer and declined representation through the PBA out of an (understandable) fear that they may look for a scapegoat and the PBA would be under a lot of pressure from the dept. This is not a cheap thing for him to be doing.
I have the address for the Sean Carroll Defense Fund, if anyone wants it, or feel free to send a donation (made out to SCDF) to the FOUP address and I will forward it with a collection that I am taking up from local LEOs.
In case anyone has missed it, I am no longer objective on this topic. Please comment appropriately.
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-Essayons
[This message has been edited by Rob (edited April 22, 1999).]