Remington....what happened to them?

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Dearhunter61

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I'm in the market for a file or Christmas and I've been reviewing a few different rifles and looked at the "new" Rem BDLs with the pastic/rubber stocks...what garbage! :barf: Yuk! What happened to the quality? I own a couple of BDLs that are the older ones, 20+ years old with walnut stocks and there simply is no comparison! I was targeting Rem as my main focus but no more!
 
The "new" Remington isn't the same as the "old" Remington. New management, new location, new workers (to some extent), new focus.
 
As a left handed shooter I get 1 wood option with a remington 700 CDL if I pick a caliber I do not want. For the caliber I want, I get 1 synthetic option, the SPS varmint.

Its not even an uncommon caliber that I want, I don't think its too much to ask for more than 1 left handed .308 Winchester option.

The SPS Varmint has about 6 inches more barrel than I want, and I hear nothing great about the stock. If I ever bought one, I would only be buying the action because I don't like anything else about it.
 
Dearhunter61 said:
I'm in the market for a file or Christmas and I've been reviewing a few different rifles and looked at the "new" Rem BDLs with the pastic/rubber stocks...what garbage! :barf: Yuk! What happened to the quality? I own a couple of BDLs that are the older ones, 20+ years old with walnut stocks and there simply is no comparison! I was targeting Rem as my main focus but no more!
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First off you're not looking at a BDL, what you're describing is an SPS. The M700 BDL comes in Walnut stocks still. The SPS was the replacement to the ADL that used to be a regular catalog item from Remington. The SPS uses a hinged floor plate like a BDL, and it has a matte black or stainless finish instead of the blued finish of the BDL. The SPS stock is basically the same as the old ADL but inletted for the hinged floor plate.
 
Taylorce1

The rifle I described you can find on Cabelas website and it is listed as a 700 BDL...

Now I have seen some with the walnut stocks on rems website but at $1k....
 
Yes, the BDL is walnut, but I can see why you are troubled. I remember when even plain jane rifles were walnut like my 10 22 carbine. I wouldn't mind if they imported European walnut, just so it's not synthetic.
 
The "new" Remington isn't the same as the "old" Remington. New management, new location, new workers (to some extent), new focus.
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Uh, no.

The HQ is still in Madison, NC, and the primary manufacturing site is still Ilion, NY. There has been some turnover in management, mostly retirements, and for the most part, Remington promotes from within.

Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
 
Dearhunter61 said:
The rifle I described you can find on Cabelas website and it is listed as a 700 BDL...

Now I have seen some with the walnut stocks on rems website but at $1k....
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The people who plug descriptions into Cabela's web page aren't gun guys. I've seen several misprints on there web page. One I remember well was a Winchester M70 shot action rife chambered in .270 Win. All I can say weather you choose to believe me or not is that Remington doesn't offer a BDL in a synthetic stock. Besides how can you determine quality by a web page description and picture?

You can't get them by Christmas but Bud's has the BDL for under $750 shipped. They offer as well a Walnut CDL for around the same price, and I like the CDL stocks better. One thing to remember Remington's web site lists MSRP, now like anything else if one shops around you can get far better deals than MSRP on rifles like anything else.
 
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Don H, what exactly is Remington's new focus?

To the OP, have you looked at Winchester Model 70's? Or are you not interested in anything but a Rem 700? The Mod 70's are more money though.
 
Dearhunter61, Lot of posters like to jump on bandwagon and bash Remington for unknown reasons.

I do agree they did drop the BDL to the more popular rds but that should be no surprise to you. I'd seen one of your post of the 10 rifles you own 2 are Rem BDL. Of the other 8 three of those calibers are still made by Rem in BDL and if you did any looking you would of realized what Rem had dropped.

You have CZ,Browning,Win besides the two Rem BDL.
 
old roper is right, people seem to like to bash remmies for any or no reason. They happen to be one of the most accurate rifles I have ever had the pleasure to shoot. Ya think that's why the military uses them?
 
Guys, I love my two BDLs. They are both very accurate! I've seen the rifles that they list as BDLs and to me they look like the old adls only the stocks look worse.

Taylorce1 you are correct I should have checked out REms website first.

I've found a 25-06 browning abolt medallion that Santas bringing me.
 
You can get a BDL in a synthetic stock. I had a factory BDL in a XRC stock I bought new in the box at a gun show. It wasn't listed on the website or catalog, but it definitely was a BDL.
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BDL means B grade wood deluxe. At least it meant that originally.
 
No? It was my point.
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The money the military puts into their sniper rifles could make any production rifle accurate - as accurate as it needs to be. Remington happened to be the low bidder on the RFQ. That's why they use M700s.
 
All the gun makers produce stuff that would have been scorned a few years ago. Why?

First, price. Plastic costs less than good walnut.
Second, practicality. No warping, can be run over by a truck with no damage.
Third, people want sexy tactical black plastic guns to go with their sexy tactical black nylon jockstraps. (Excuse me, while I go and throw up.)

Jim
 
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