Remington UMC ammo

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Tankist

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I've just had a most disturbing experience during my last trip to the range that I wanted to share with someone. To make a long story short I've just purchased a case of UMC 9mm 115gr MC. So there I was, taking it for a test drive with my G19. Not too bad, not great, but not that bad either. Right up to the point when I get a jam about half way through my second box. I'm not sure what caused me to get suspicious, maybe it was the weak pop from the last shot. Whatever it was I stop to examine the pistol. Everything seemed fine right up until I noticed a bullet lodged half way into the barrel.

Did anyone else experience any problems with Remington UMC ammo? I am now wondering what I should to with the rest of the case.

Not that I would want to find out, but it does make me wonder what would have happened if I didn't notice that round stuck in the barrel. Did anyone have this happen with a Glock 19.

Blown through or blown apart?
 
Tankist, good thing you noticed that "pop" and didn't try to fire the pistol again.

I'd go ahead and use the rest of the ammo for practice. There isn't a factory out there that doesn't have a dud round, now and then. You just happened to "get lucky."

For example, I've had several "failures to fire," with both Federal, Win., and Rem., ammo... but, I shot a LOT. And, had access to ammo which was bought in 7,000,000 round lots. So, as nothing is perfect, sometimes, a dud appears.

Just be aware and careful when you shoot it.

FWIW. J.B.
 
I bought 4 boxes of UMC 115gr ammo and took them to the range, back in July, and put them through my Ruger P95. Though I did not experience any jams or failures to feed, I did notice that, quite often, the slide would not lock back after the last round in the magazine was sent down range.

I also went through 3 boxes of Winchester's 115gr BEB. Had no problems with the Winchester stuff at all. Interesting.

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Tankist
you find that in all makes I,ve found bullets in backwards ,primers in backwards,no primer,no primer hole ,high primers, crushed loaded rounds all in first class high dollar nickle plated sealed rounds
 
I can certainly second it being consistent. The UMC .308 150gr. FMJ shoots like match ammo out of my heavy barrel Remington 700. It could not do that if it was not very consistent. I also got some incredible groups out of a Wilson Combat AR15 using UMC .223 55gr. FMJ but I want to repeat that performance before I decide it may not have been just a good day.

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I've noticed that my No4MkI really likes the UMC 174gr .303 ammo. I've never shot it for groups, but I'm able to consistenly put down bowling pins at 150 yards.

The 115gr 9mm rounds do seem rather weak.

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I have used 32 cal UMC. I find it weak and the brass diameter to be slightly small and thin. The ejected brass is miss-shapen. It tends to give "failures to eject" in my P-32. It IS consistant is power, just not enough.
 
Just checking.... I've recently had quite a bit of trouble with that American Ammo crap. Ended up returning what was left of the case for a refund. Just wanted to make sure UMC was not something of a similar nature.

I guess if you shoot enough, these things do tend to happen sooner or later. Like J.B. said, I just happen to get "lucky" on my second box of the stuff.

Oh well, you get what you pay for.
 
I shoot my IPSC matches using UMC .40 Auto ammo with the 180-grain FMJ bullet. The stuff is not top-notch in the accuracy department, but it works, is cheap, and goes "bang" almost every time. If you get one dud or "suib" (an under-powered round) every few thousand rounds, it is not too much of a concern.

Btw, good work noticing the diminished report and stopping to investigate. Had you pulled the trigger again, it is likely you and your gun would have suffered harm.
 
I can certainly sympathize with your experience. The thought of what might have happened sends cold chills up and down one's spine.

I've put LOTS of Rem UMC ammo (9mm & .223) through my guns with nary a problem. I've used both S&W (pre-deal) and Ruger handguns for the 9mm and no problems with either one.

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Tankist,

I would notify Remington/UMC immediately, specifically including all lot numbers, etc. I am sure there is an "800" number on their packaging or go to www.remington.com. I'll bet they will gladly provide replacement ammunition -- and they should recall the entire "squib round" lot.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I've recently had quite a bit of trouble with that American Ammo crap.[/quote]
Yes, American Ammunition is crap. :D

As far as UMC, I have never had a problem. As previously mentioned, I would call or write them. They are sure to offer a compensation.

[This message has been edited by PreserveFreedom (edited August 29, 2000).]
 
Hmm. Ran through 50 rounds of UMC and 50 of Amer. Eagle a couple of days ago without any problems through my new G34. Not enough to find any duds but have more to try out.

How far down the barrel did the bullet get to before stopping?

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Yes, I have had problems. The only 4 boxes I ever purchased were not good, Extremely dirty.(like nothing I've ever seen) several failed to fire. Sent them in to Remington. Received a note back - lab analysis showed oil of some ind in the primers. Also a check for slightly more than the cost of the ammo.
Good customer service, not so good ammo.
 
hksigwalther: Just so you know, American Ammunition is not the same as American Eagle. American Eagle is a quality ammunition made by Federal. American Ammunition is cheap crap that comes with cases that are already deformed and split. American Eagle is in a red cardboard box. American Ammunition is in a cheap plastic see through package. I wasn't sure if this was what you were implying but I didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea. :)
 
For what it's worth, I've run several hundred rounds of UMC .45 ACP 230 gr ball thru my 1991A1 without so much as a hiccup. Like Chad said, not the most accurate stuff I've ever used, but cheap and it goes "bang" when I pull the trigger.
 
The bullet got about halfway down the barrel before stoping. Since there was not enough energy in the round to cycle the slide, the spent case could not be properly ejected and caused a jam.

Judging by what I've heard so far, this seems to be an anomaly. Not something that happens very often using UMC ammo. I think I'm going go ahead and finnish my case and also write a note to Remington informing them about my little squib incident.

Thanks for your input guys.
 
PreserveFreedom,

Oh yeah, I know. I've never tried the American Ammo. I usually try to stay with, at least, the low grade name brands like Remington's UMC and Federal's Amer Eagle. the exception is Norinco. I've had pretty good luck with those.

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