Remington R51

On thing I have found is not to baby the slide during reassembly.

Photo #39 in the manual shows holding the front of the slide when pushing the slide onto the frame; that does not work for me. What works best for me is to hold the slide serrations with my hand curled over the top of the slide, then push the slide to the rear on the frame. I can also pull the slide to the rear on the frame, as though I was racking the slide, but that nearly always results in the ejector popping up and stopping the slide from going fully on the frame.
 
About 8 or nine minutes following the video I posted earlier to take it aoart. Including looking under my bench when the pedersen device when it fell out, bounced off the rubber floor mat, and went under the bench!:eek:
No broaken nails, or pain. Cleaned it all up, lubed it with some Balistoil, and started the reassymbly process following the video. I might have it back together some time next week! After I take it to a gunsmith to figure out why the splde stops way before it fist all the way on!
OK, not next week, just about a half hour until I figured you had to pull the barrel out so the Pedersen device fits all the way in the slide, and doesn't sit up where it hits the frame. But I noticed in the video he did not have to do that. He mentioned the little tab that hits the frame, and has to be fir ed over it, but mine would not get that far without pulli g the barrel out, holding it out until the slide was on the frame.
Anybody else experience this? Or am I doing something wrong?
 
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Just watched another video. Again, they didn't have to pull the barrel forward releasing pressure on the breach block to put it back together. Don't know why mine caused the pedersen device to move to the rear, and up enough to hit the frame when I tried to put tge slide back on. Too late tonight for a rematch, and kinda busy tomorrow, but I gotta give it another try.
 
The take down and reassembly is just a matter of finding a technique that works. Do you think all the guns and factory workers making and assembling these spend that much time putting them together. My Walther CCP got the same bad rap about assembly and disassembly. I have no problems with the CCP, in fact I find it simple, yet that's all you hear is the take down or reassembly issues. Remember when all else fail's read the directions or find a Remington you tube video for the proper technique for assembly. I like the R51 and I am toying with buying one myself. The nose diving issue seems to be the only issue left to address and that's magazine related. The newer mags are different than the originals, so Remington must be aware of the issue. Anyway congrats on your new R51.
 
cheapshooter, I have posted in other threads/forums about pulling the barrel forward when assembling the R51. Like you, I discovered this on my own. I also use the slide lock post to pull the barrel forward to grip it or to slide the frame on during assembly. I put the slide lock in the barrel lugs and use it to slide the barrel forward enough to grab the front barrel grooves. Like I mentioned earlier, once you get a sequence down, it takes less than a minute to disassemble it and then to assemble it. Different? Yes. Difficult? Not so much.
 
Get the slide started on the frame rails and then just rack the slide.
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nope, not mine. I tried that for 15 minutes last night. Over, and over. For some reason, and I can see it hapening, when the Petersen device is put in, and the barrel isn't pulled forward, the device moves back, and is lifted away from the slide enough that it solidly hist the frame preventing the slide from going on. In the video I posted earlier the guy says you ha e to be forcefull, but doing that left obviousburs on the frame where the Petersen device was hitting it, and stopping everything from moving. This is not seen at all in the videos. Something isn't going together the same when I do it.But when I put it together by pulling the barrell out the gun functions fine.
 
Cheapshooter said:
For some reason, and I can see it hapening, when the Petersen device is put in, and the barrel isn't pulled forward, the device moves back, and is lifted away from the slide enough that it solidly hist the frame preventing the slide from going on.
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If you watch it as you assemble it, the barrel is pushed back against the breech block and it raises the block about 1/16" preventing the frame from sliding on easily. If you force the frame forward, it will push the block down and ride over the hump but you are pushing the barrel forward just enough to take the pressure off the breech block.

Sooooo, if you slide the frame into the slide to start it, pull the barrel forward about 1/2" or so then the breech blocks sits flat in the slide and the frame slides right on, really easy. Why force it on when you can easily push the barrel forward a small amount? Yes, forcing the slide on will push down on the breech block but it feels unnatural even though that's how it's done. Move the barrel forward and it goes right on and you are done. Very easy. Very simple.
 
The variations in assembly all involve moving the breech block forward slightly in the slide so that the top rear of the breech block can rise into the recess in the top of the slide. Pushing the breech block or pulling the barrel are just different paths to the same result.

A real revelation is feeling how the parts move if you reassemble the gun without the recoil spring and hold the barrel in place with your thumb over the muzzle.
 
Thanks!
Yup, tried it about an hour ago. Got to thinking that maybe the device hitting the frame would push the barrel forward allowing the device to move up out of the way. Don't know why I was thinking the barrel had to stay back going on the frame.
Now it's not bad at all to take it apart,and put it back together. Just takes a little more aligning the barrel than most other pistols.
Hopefully I can get to the range next week to give it a good shake down.
 
Cleaning R 51

It is getting easier to clean the R 51 after a range visit. There is really no problem if I leave the bushing and the spring in place tilted up to take out the barrel to clean it. The recoil is much easier to handle and it will probably get even better after more range time. It is a joy to carry and I am feeling very confident with it.
 
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