Remington ADL .22-250
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It depends on condition. Be advised, the .22-250 is a barrel burner with velocity =/> 4000 FPS with commercial ammo, if shooting hot reloads it's even worse. Also, commercial ammo may be expensive. Personally I would prefer .223, anything you can do with .22-250 you can probably do with .223.
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Don't assume the barrel is shot out. It's your buddy's gun, so borrow it and shoot it. It's a good caliber. I bought a used 220 Swift (hotter round than the 22-250) many years ago and it shot great. I did eventually 'use up' the barrel and replaced it.
Factory loads of 55 gr bullets will be 3850 fps Max. You can get your reloads of 40 gr bullets well over 4000fps.
That said, there is a good case for the 223 with a 1 in 9 twist or 1 in 8 twist. You can shoot heavier bullets in the 223 with that twist, and if you want bullet speed, you can get 40 gr Ballistic Tips to around 3800 fps with the right powder.
Factory loads of 55 gr bullets will be 3850 fps Max. You can get your reloads of 40 gr bullets well over 4000fps.
That said, there is a good case for the 223 with a 1 in 9 twist or 1 in 8 twist. You can shoot heavier bullets in the 223 with that twist, and if you want bullet speed, you can get 40 gr Ballistic Tips to around 3800 fps with the right powder.
I'm not sure the age of it. I plan to reload my own rounds. So ammo price really isn't an issue. Other places I have read say the 22-250 can do everything a .223 can do but not the other way around. I live in NE Indiana so I cannot use it to deer hunt. Just looking for something to shoot Varmints and probably mainly paper with.
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Any help is appreciated!!
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Any help is appreciated!!
"It depends on condition. Be advised, the .22-250 is a barrel burner with velocity =/> 4000 FPS with commercial ammo, if shooting hot reloads it's even worse."
I shot a Rem 700ADL 22/250 for 15 years coyote hunting using the hottest handloads it would stand and it's still more accurate than 90% of shooters can utilize.
"Other places I have read say the 22-250 can do everything a .223 can do but not the other way around."
Definitely TRUE. 22/250 has around 400(or more)FPS velocity advantage over .223. The only place 22/250 is handicapped is due to barrel twist rates that won't stabilize heavier bullets.
I think $450 w/o scope is a wee bit high. Depends on how much you like your buddy whether you want to pay upper end price. If I was buying it, I'd be in at $300-325 (no tax) absolute tops.
I shot a Rem 700ADL 22/250 for 15 years coyote hunting using the hottest handloads it would stand and it's still more accurate than 90% of shooters can utilize.
"Other places I have read say the 22-250 can do everything a .223 can do but not the other way around."
Definitely TRUE. 22/250 has around 400(or more)FPS velocity advantage over .223. The only place 22/250 is handicapped is due to barrel twist rates that won't stabilize heavier bullets.
I think $450 w/o scope is a wee bit high. Depends on how much you like your buddy whether you want to pay upper end price. If I was buying it, I'd be in at $300-325 (no tax) absolute tops.
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I can give you the download on using the caliber. With the normal barrel twist, probably the 63 gr Sierra SMP is the heaviest bullet you'll be able to shoot (stabilize). Mostly I just shoot 55 gr bullets - Nosler Ballistic Tips and Sierra GK's - which are laser beam deadly on coyotes but not suitable for deer. Sight it in for 200 yards and it'll be down only about 5 inches at 300, 15 at 400, and a touch over 30 at 500. Put a decent 6-24 or 6.5-20 scope on it and you'll be good to go.
Or, load the 40 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips to 4200 fps or so, and zap coyotes with that. The 40 grainer seems to flatten coyotes even faster than the 55 grainers do.
And if you do shoot out the barrel eventually, replace it with a 22-250 AI barrel, which you could buy with a faster twist and shoot heavier bullets - if that interests you, or just stick with the 55 grainers and keep blasting coyotes.
Or, load the 40 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips to 4200 fps or so, and zap coyotes with that. The 40 grainer seems to flatten coyotes even faster than the 55 grainers do.
And if you do shoot out the barrel eventually, replace it with a 22-250 AI barrel, which you could buy with a faster twist and shoot heavier bullets - if that interests you, or just stick with the 55 grainers and keep blasting coyotes.
I'm not sure about the price. Couple years ago I bought a 700 SPS VS Stainless for a little less brand new. Look around your area and price a new 700 before buying.
Nothing wrong with the .22-250 at all and not sure why the .223 fans always call it a barrel burner. It does give about 400 fps more velocity then the .223 and it excels at varmint hunting. It will do it's best with bullets of 50 to 55 gr. You want to stay with varmint bullets to prevent ricochets. No sense shooting someone's livestock or buildings.
Nothing wrong with the .22-250 at all and not sure why the .223 fans always call it a barrel burner. It does give about 400 fps more velocity then the .223 and it excels at varmint hunting. It will do it's best with bullets of 50 to 55 gr. You want to stay with varmint bullets to prevent ricochets. No sense shooting someone's livestock or buildings.
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The 22-250 is indeed more cartridge than the .223, the difference in the cartridge case is no lie, more space (for powder), more velocity. That added velocity over the .223 will make it faster and flatter, and easier to hit small targets further out. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the 22-250 has 100 yds more effective range on the .223 for varmints. To 300 yds, there is not a lot of difference. Out to 400, with the same zero and same slugs, the 22-250 should give about 6" less drop.
That can yield more hits for the average shooter, as ranging at that distance on small targets is a bit less problematic. But wind and ability will limit one's capacity to effectivly use that flattened trajectory. I've been sniping crows here lately with mine, and 300 is about as far as a crow has any real danger from me. The 200 yd shots that I make often enough, could be made with a .223.
Choice might depend on your shooting too. If you're a high volume (say Prairie dogs, though I've not done it yet), shooter, the .223 will go easier on the bore, provided you use some sense on your rate and volume of fire. With the 22-250, if you don't use good sense, I bet you can cook the throat in a day. If you shoot varmints occassionally, the odd crow/coyote/coyote hunt, the 22-250 should last a long enough while.
The OP mentions he will load for it, and that creates another option. There is nothing to say that the 22-250 can be loaded down to .223 velocity and yield longer barrel life. But you cannot load a .223 up to 22-250 levels to be flatter between 300-400 yds.
Much will depend on the assessement of your pal's rifle. Seems a tad high me. He's a pal, shoot him a counter offer if the rifle's good.
The 22-250 is indeed more cartridge than the .223, the difference in the cartridge case is no lie, more space (for powder), more velocity. That added velocity over the .223 will make it faster and flatter, and easier to hit small targets further out. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the 22-250 has 100 yds more effective range on the .223 for varmints. To 300 yds, there is not a lot of difference. Out to 400, with the same zero and same slugs, the 22-250 should give about 6" less drop.
That can yield more hits for the average shooter, as ranging at that distance on small targets is a bit less problematic. But wind and ability will limit one's capacity to effectivly use that flattened trajectory. I've been sniping crows here lately with mine, and 300 is about as far as a crow has any real danger from me. The 200 yd shots that I make often enough, could be made with a .223.
Choice might depend on your shooting too. If you're a high volume (say Prairie dogs, though I've not done it yet), shooter, the .223 will go easier on the bore, provided you use some sense on your rate and volume of fire. With the 22-250, if you don't use good sense, I bet you can cook the throat in a day. If you shoot varmints occassionally, the odd crow/coyote/coyote hunt, the 22-250 should last a long enough while.
The OP mentions he will load for it, and that creates another option. There is nothing to say that the 22-250 can be loaded down to .223 velocity and yield longer barrel life. But you cannot load a .223 up to 22-250 levels to be flatter between 300-400 yds.
Much will depend on the assessement of your pal's rifle. Seems a tad high me. He's a pal, shoot him a counter offer if the rifle's good.
Boogieman said:
Yeah Walmart sells new ADLs for about 380$ with a cheap scope. Even the older ADLs before Remington officially discontinued the line except for big box chains aren't worth that much money. 450$ for used is way to high, he should be asking like 300-375$ maybe$. For 450$ you could almost buy a new 700 SPS, or another rifle in a similar class like a T/C venture, Ruger Americans are around 400$ or less etc...
Even though thats a older wood one, asking is still high even though its likely worth more than the newer cheap synthetic ADLs..
I wouldn't do it my friend, i'd ask him to come down or just use that money toward a new rifle or a better deal.