Remington 870

Tactical - Express is great!

It is all what you're using it for.

I use my 870 Express as a tactical shotgun for home defense,and basically just to have one. The shooting style is totally different, and the drills you run are totally different than other types of shooting. It's fun.

I got the express because it was cheap, and had a really plain jane military look to it. I added a magazine extension, side saddle shell holder, surefire forend, and a knoxx recoil reducing stock. Now it is an awsome...and ideal tactical shotgun.

I use my 870 Wingmaster with the high gloss finish and pretty engraving for shooting trap (and if I hunted I would use it for that too). Initially I used it for double duty...but putting all that tactical gear on it just seemed wrong. It's too pretty with the wood furniture. And adding a magazine extension and side saddle seemed wrong too, since they would both ruin the finish on the gun in their respective places. Admitidly, I shoot is less often because the wood buttstock has a lot more felt recoil than my Tactical shotgun with a knoxx stock...this keeps it looking pretty...which I am sure my grandkids will thank me for someday.

Since an ideal tactical shotgun means adding the high end accessories, and since a matte finish won't reflect light, starting off with the cheaper 870 Express is a good idea. Most the negatives about it will be eliminated once you add the cool accessories. Which once you get into it, you know your going to do. So why pay extra for wood stocks you're going to remove and a glossy finish that reflects light?

Yes, I do know the police model's finish holds up better, but they usually come with riffle sights wich I learned the hard way I like less than the bead sight. And I've heard about dimples on the Express that make adding the magazine extension difficult. Oddly enough, my Wingmaster had them but my Express didn't. Putting a magazine extension on my Wingmaster would have ment punching them out, but adding one to my Express required no modification. This was the luck of the draw I think, because most forum posts I've read claim the exact opposite. Perhaps my express was an older model that sat on the shelf for a while? Who knows.

Good luck!
 
Newbie question / problem

Hey all, just bought an 870 Express Super Mag and have used it for a couple weeks at the local trap range. I really like it but for..... after 4 or 5 shots, it will refuse to eject the shell unless some serious, two handed, butt in the crotch, pulling and cussin' takes place. In fact there have been times when the two handed, slam the butt on the ground is required to vomit the shell. And yes, its been cleaned, dissassembled, cleaned, wiped, cleaned and wiped some more. This jamming execercise seems to increase in frequency as the trap round progresses.... maybe 8 of 25, give or take. I've been using WW 2 3/4 7.5 target loads from WalMart, but just today bought some Remington loads in hopes of improving the situation. If anyone has any other ideas? I'm all ears and open to all suggestions. I hope this is not a "normal" condition that one just has to get used to..... Thanks

CKirk
 
Captain Kirk

Take it back to where you bought it or write somebody from Rem about it. Doesn't sound good at all.
 
Just as a follow up, went to the range tonight with some Rem shells vs Win and not a single ejection jam. So while that's encouraging, I'm still a little disappointed and have yet to hear anything from Remington re: the problem and that too is a little discouraging. The reason I bought the 870 is for the same reasons stated above many times, reliable as they come and as old as dirt....sounded like a safe "buy". But the jury is still out, I try some different shells and then go back to a box or two of Win stuff and see if the problem crops up again.
 
I've had nothing but bad luck with those Walmart WW 100-packs. It's the only ammo I've ever shot that can turn a 100% reliable pump-gun into a worthless POS. My experience is identical to yours-fired rounds extract very hard, or require bumping the butt on the ground to open the action.

I like the Walmart Federal 100 packs the best, followed in a distant second place by the Remingtons.
 
Capnkirk- trust me, its the ammo you are using, for night shooting I use what ever is the cheapest I can buy ( since you can expect to blast off 250 rds on rabbits) and wuth all guns, you will get some ejection problems with cheap, thin plastic hulls. We were using some random Italian rubbish a few months ago, and even with o/u guns were getting hard ejection. One shell even had to be removed from a browning by use of a cleaning rod. There is nothing wrong with using avarage ammo for blasting, but you pay a price when it comes to reliability. No such thing as a free lunch I think.
 
Ok, I am a remington shotgun man.

I have 2 870 express shotguns, one fully rifled and the other just my clay and bird gun.
I have a 870 tactical magnum for my home defense.
I have a 11-87 for birds and clays.

I know I might get alot of crap for this but.....
I look at it this way, I could buy a mossberg for 200, or I could buy a nice remington for 20 bucks more. I personally feel that the mossbergs feal cheap, and look ugly. Not the case with the 870, it is a solid feeling gun, and I have never had aa problem with one ever, including the 11-87 (I have about 4000 rounds through it)
There is no smoother, more reliable pump gun out there. There is nothing bad about the express.
 
870

I'm down to my last four 870's, after selling one to a friend who just had to have it. I doubt if there is a more reliable shotgun than an 870 (excluding the super simple single shots, doubles, and OUs.)
 
I have a Supermag 870 in camo with a 30 in barrel for waterfowl and it shoots just fine. Haven't tried light loads in it, because it's not what I bought it for. I have other shotguns for that. I think the Supermag is still an express model, and the changes in it have not as yet, produced any problems at all. The action was very smooth out of the box, so I anticipate it will only get better.;)
 
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