Remington 870
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leadcounsel
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Have two 870 Express and love them both.
spyderdude
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I haven't had any problems with my 870 Express Magnum. People complain about the finish and rust problems, but I have yet to see rust on mine, and the finish to me isn't too bad.
XavierBreath
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The Express is the same shotgun as the Wingmaster with less polishing. It's the same gun, just not as pretty.
The folklore about bad parts and so on is merely myth.
The Express has hardwood stocks and unpolished metal surfaces.
The "rusting" seems not to happen to those that read the manual and follow the breakin procedures.
It does take a bit longer for the Express to smooth up the cycling, but this is a minor matter.
The Express has hardwood stocks and unpolished metal surfaces.
The "rusting" seems not to happen to those that read the manual and follow the breakin procedures.
It does take a bit longer for the Express to smooth up the cycling, but this is a minor matter.
It is not folklore on the parts, and I didn't say they're "bad".
As has been detailed here before, the Police models get certain forged parts such as the extractor, beefed up springs, and an aluminum triggerguard. The current express models (my older express is different) get MIM extractors and a plastic triggerguard. That comes from the parts specs of a Remington authorized service center used in ordering replacement parts from the factory.
Nothing says the MIM & plastic parts won't work, but there's a reason why Remington puts the more durable & rugged package on the Police guns.
It ain't myth, there is a difference beyond just the hardwood & polishing.
Denis
As has been detailed here before, the Police models get certain forged parts such as the extractor, beefed up springs, and an aluminum triggerguard. The current express models (my older express is different) get MIM extractors and a plastic triggerguard. That comes from the parts specs of a Remington authorized service center used in ordering replacement parts from the factory.
Nothing says the MIM & plastic parts won't work, but there's a reason why Remington puts the more durable & rugged package on the Police guns.
It ain't myth, there is a difference beyond just the hardwood & polishing.
Denis
Well, if anybody doesnt want any 870 Expresses anymore, good for me, cause that means there is more ammo available for my 870 Youth Express Magnum
. I just dont see how ppl are coming up with these kinds of things. I reckon ppl just start this kinda stuff about different guns here and there to stir things up. My PERSONAL experience with my Remington 870 Youth Model Express has been excellent. I bought the gun in January of this year, and have had no malfunctions whatsoever. I have put 200 or more rounds through it with no problems at all. I once fed it some old ammo, with a few of the cases rusty a little. It fired them without a hitch, I just had to put a bit more muscle into cycling the thing b/c of the ammo being that way. So, IMO, the Remington 870 Express is a great shotgun, and one of the best shotguns within its price range.
. I just dont see how ppl are coming up with these kinds of things. I reckon ppl just start this kinda stuff about different guns here and there to stir things up. My PERSONAL experience with my Remington 870 Youth Model Express has been excellent. I bought the gun in January of this year, and have had no malfunctions whatsoever. I have put 200 or more rounds through it with no problems at all. I once fed it some old ammo, with a few of the cases rusty a little. It fired them without a hitch, I just had to put a bit more muscle into cycling the thing b/c of the ammo being that way. So, IMO, the Remington 870 Express is a great shotgun, and one of the best shotguns within its price range.Just payed for my 2nd 870
Im picking up my 2nd 870 next week.
I have a 870 express super magnum. and my new one is a 870 Express Synthetic 18" barrel and 2 shot extension (7 shot tottal).
The only time i had a problem whit my supermagnum whas one 3.5" shell got stuck in the chamber.
For the money they are great guns. If finish is important then get the wingmaster or any other "high class" shotgun. Im stiking to the "trailer trash" of pump guns.
Im picking up my 2nd 870 next week.
I have a 870 express super magnum. and my new one is a 870 Express Synthetic 18" barrel and 2 shot extension (7 shot tottal).
The only time i had a problem whit my supermagnum whas one 3.5" shell got stuck in the chamber.
For the money they are great guns. If finish is important then get the wingmaster or any other "high class" shotgun. Im stiking to the "trailer trash" of pump guns.
littlmak,
Be careful what you read on the Errornet...
True, the reputation of the Express guns has suffered somewhat of late for various reasons. People have a prejudice against change, any change. People, especially 'gun people,' tend to prefer metal to plastic, machined to molded. But there is a certain amount of exaggeration among those who complain the loudest about the quality of 870 Express guns. I wonder how many of those who type so freely about 870 Expresses don't own one, or haven't had problems with the one they do own. I wonder just how many can tell a MIM extractor from a machined one by looking at it.
I've been shooting 870s for going on 40 years, and have yet to buy a new one. I have several Express guns of different ages and 'generations,' from an early one with walnut furniture to newer ones. I have yet to break a part on any of them or to have trouble with rust on any of them. The only 870 barrel that has offered me extraction problems came from one of the vaunted Police guns, and those extraction problems only manifest themselves with one brand of shell (fix: shoot something else).
My constant advice to anyone who feels comfortable shopping for a used gun is to buy a used 870- an older Express, Wingmaster or Police trade-in. It's axiomatic that 870s wear in, not out. Unless you "need" a new one and can only afford an Express gun, there's no reason not to give a home to one of the many good used 870s available. Like so much else, it is a matter of knowing what you're comfortable doing. There's nothing essentially wrong with current production Express guns, but older used 870s in good shape are often better bargains- if you know how to select one that fits your needs. If not, buy new.
hth,
lpl/nc
Be careful what you read on the Errornet...
True, the reputation of the Express guns has suffered somewhat of late for various reasons. People have a prejudice against change, any change. People, especially 'gun people,' tend to prefer metal to plastic, machined to molded. But there is a certain amount of exaggeration among those who complain the loudest about the quality of 870 Express guns. I wonder how many of those who type so freely about 870 Expresses don't own one, or haven't had problems with the one they do own. I wonder just how many can tell a MIM extractor from a machined one by looking at it.
I've been shooting 870s for going on 40 years, and have yet to buy a new one. I have several Express guns of different ages and 'generations,' from an early one with walnut furniture to newer ones. I have yet to break a part on any of them or to have trouble with rust on any of them. The only 870 barrel that has offered me extraction problems came from one of the vaunted Police guns, and those extraction problems only manifest themselves with one brand of shell (fix: shoot something else).
My constant advice to anyone who feels comfortable shopping for a used gun is to buy a used 870- an older Express, Wingmaster or Police trade-in. It's axiomatic that 870s wear in, not out. Unless you "need" a new one and can only afford an Express gun, there's no reason not to give a home to one of the many good used 870s available. Like so much else, it is a matter of knowing what you're comfortable doing. There's nothing essentially wrong with current production Express guns, but older used 870s in good shape are often better bargains- if you know how to select one that fits your needs. If not, buy new.
hth,
lpl/nc
A friend of mine and I both bought Remington 870s at the same time. We bought the extended magazine, 18" barrel, composite stock. Both guns were stiff. We both followed the same procedure. Complete break down, thorough cleaning and proper lubrication. They both smoothed up very nicely. After 300 or so rounds, they are just as slick as they can be. There are differences, though. His trigger is very crisp with very little creep. Mine has a lot of free slack and lots of creep. All in all, I can't think of anything better for the price. It is what it is. It ain't fancy. It ain't shiny. It is a highly functional tool without a lot of spit and polish. It's a Chevy truck, not a Mercedes. It will absolutely get you where you want to go, and if it gets a scratch or ding along the way, no one will really notice.
gunslinger555
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i have the 870 ex. combo and the 870 express hd with 2 shot extention 18 inch barrel. they havent let me down yet and highly doubt they ever will since i baby them
hossdaniels
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mine's ugly, but it still works. (though not as much since i got my citori )
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