Remington 870 w/14" barrel and factory folding stock

Tam ... Mine wiggled too

Tam. I also had a Remington-branded top fold and it wiggled a considerable amount too, I had a friend who is an Aircraft welder fill in the hole for the pop-out latch and then we redrilled the hole to the proper dimension. As I recall, the Remington hole was .03 too big and that was the cause. I wrapped the extension part of the stock with some rubber tape to kill some of the folded rattle and to give my cheek a rest.

Now for a rant, (not directed at tamara but to all) I am not a security professional, I am a contractor who likes to shoot. I worry about my ccw and home defense equipment a LOT, I worry about my hunting and farm guns almost as much. I do NOT worry if a weapon that I hope to never use is going to eat my face up if I go to some mall Ninja wanna be tactical security school. I worry about will that weapon perform as I need it when I need it to. This is not to say school is a bad thing or training is a bad thing. But do not make equipment decisions based on scenarios you see in a training class. I know some of the class out there are good and I have taken a few. I have also taken a couple of classes where I got the distinct impression I was somehow held in disregard because I was not thinking about creating my own volunteer SWAT team.

I have a top-fold 870 stuck on a big magnet plate inside and on top of my closet door. (Imagine steping into closet and then turn around and look up)
In my bedroom if I get out of bed I am two feet from my shotgun. It is always loaded 7 rounds, empty chamber. I have shot this gun enough to know what it does, how it works and where all the bottons are in the dark. I hunt duck and geese with another 870 and I am confident if the SHTF I will do ok. The last training class I went to had several scenarios which went way beyond the scope of any self defense class. Clearing rooms with teams. Lots of shootout at the ok corral type of game playing. Not once was anyone willing to think about "head-peak" around corner and then poke gun around corner and spray a few rounds.

I have read on here (similar threads) about buying different guns for training and for EDC, about how my gun with the checkered front strap or my thumb break holster are somehow ineffective or improper because of the hassle they will cause me at training. Equip for real life, let the training mimic reality do not force reality to mimic training.


NFA4u that is a cool shottie I did not want to pay the $200 tax stamp so mine is another 4 inches longer but I have the swat tube i.e. mag extension
 
guntotin,

Good lord! You have a mind of your own. Now that just won't do. Seriously, ditch that folder now and get whatever the gun comic books are now pushing! I mean, what if you have to shoot 10,000 rounds through it in 6 minutes when the GIJOE/Red Dawn scenario finally comes true!! :D
 
I wished you guys would just admit the only reason for a folding stock on a shotgun is for "gunshow commando" looks. I would hardly make fun of "GIJOE/Red Dawn " types. I mean, come on guys, your the ones with a folding stock on a shotgun.

On a serious note:

guntotinfool,

You really need to get better instructors or pick classes more suited to your needs. Most schools cater to the "mall ninja" types. The good schools don't. Try Loius Awerbuck. He is the best instructor that I have ever seen and knows the difference between training Delta Force members and self defense minded citizens even in the same class.

You may know more than the instructors you have had and may have better ways for your personal situation but I have yet to see or even hear of anyone that knows more about the use of firearms (including tactics, mindset, various platforms, and actual shooting) than Louis Awerbuck.
 
I wished you guys would just admit the only reason for a folding stock on a shotgun is for "gunshow commando" looks. I would hardly make fun of "GIJOE/Red Dawn " types. I mean, come on guys, your the ones with a folding stock on a shotgun.
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Yep, it is a helluva lot more maneuverable inside the house. You can have the firepower of an 18" barreled shotgun at subcarbine length with no special legal hoops to jump through.

Perhaps it would be better if you guys admit that you don't like the stock only because it hurts your shoulder too much (ouchie!). :D That is fine, but for those who aren't so delicate it makes a shotgun more practical in confined spaces. :)
 
Once again it took me a couple years of practice, when I was in my peak, and several thousad rounds before I could reliably get 80% hits from hip with a pistol grip at less than 50'. :rolleyes:
 
Ouchie

Methinks that metal folder would hurt, but I would still own it proudly. Last time I shot an elk with a 7mm rem mag I didnt' even hear or feel that gun recoil, and it isnt exactly a light hitting one. I think if I ever had to use it in a SD/HD sit. I would probably have the same thing happen. That said, I would prefer a fixed stock/pistol grip with surefire light mount, magna port, 8 round extension, ghost ring setup, as that makes the most sense to me.........Can use the butstock as a blunt weapon if needed, and its one less thing to fiddle with. But thats my opinion, and I still think the folder is nifty, just not my personal preference for SD/HD purposes.
 
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