Remington 700 or Savage in 223 ?

Which is more accurate out of the box? Shoot twenty, 5-shot groups with appropriate ammo and compare. With forum posts you will see statements to the effect "Get Rifle A; It is way more accurate than rifle B!" Not data will be given to support the claim.

Suggestion: The Remington VLS (Varmint Laminated Stock) is still in the Remington 700 lineup. It has a heavy barrel and, as indicated, a laminated stock. I have one in .308. For example, using a handload of 39.8 gr IMR 3031 pushing a Sierra 168-gr match bullet, I shot five consecutive, 5-shot groups averaging 0.65" at 100 yards. One chambered for .223 should do somewhat better.
 
Mc Shooty-- Savage FVSS 223-25.5 gn Varget,CCI BR-4 Primer 60 gn Hornady. Always under .5 no matter how many groups I shoot. Year after Year after Year
 
Point taken, 4runnerman. Like to see a face off between a Savage and a Rem in .223

Stock for stock- The remmy would die fast. Remmy would win the looks category hands down,but looks don't mean squat when the targets are layed on the table:D
 
I used to buy Remington's but after one Savage (22/250 BVSS) I switched over quickly. The bolt feel is smoother, the trigger is great out of the box, the bore is smoother and collects less fouling. All in all it was an easy change over.

I suggest you go to a store and just run the bolt on both. Dry fire it once or twice (if they let you). I think you will find it pretty obvious to go with Savage.
 
The Remington bolt face is pock marked from defective 9 1/2 primers. Pressure was not a factor. Remington has"Three Rings of Steel. Gas during a case head seperation is contained better than a Savage. The extractor can be blow out, releasing gas like in this thread. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465482
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Get whichever one you like more, both are bolt actions made by reputable manufacturers and known for their accuracy. You will probably get more bang for your buck with Savage.
 
I also am considering a new Varmint Rifle. I have no question on Mfg. Remington has the experience I want. I can count on finding information or custom parts for them any where. I have been shooting a stock 700 Varmint Special in 222 for over 30 years. I learned what accuracy was with that rifle. 1/4 5 shot groups have been common over the years with tuned hand loads. I have floated the barrel and did a simple glass bedding job on it since I have had it. There is nothing wrong with the stock trigger un like many other Mfg. The only thing I can think of that may or may not be a problem is trying to make up my mind on witch 700 to choose. They have them for a lot of applications. Also Remington has less expensive model bolt actions but that' not what I am looking for. I want a 700. I figure my 222 Rem. is limited to about 300 Yds. A 308 is a bit heavy for Varmint so perhaps a 243 or 7mm-08 is the way to go.
 
The lgs got in a savage 111 trophy hunter xp in 223 with a Nikon 3-9 scope for 469.99 and the guy said the only thing he would change is buying a Boyd stock for it. So far that is looking like a great deal. For under 600.00 I get the rifle, a Nikon scope and a Boyd stock. How does that sound to you guys ?
 
Take the deal.

I didn't buy a Savage 110 POLICE Tactical in .308, and waited TWO YEARS before I ended up with a RIFLE...all because I was soliciting opinions from 'shooters'. :rolleyes:
Shoulda just bought the damn thing and started shooting!

I ended up with a 1989 Remington 700 / BDL-AS in 7mm Rem.Mag. :D
FINALLY got myself a rifle and loved it!

Took a lot of crap for my choice from the guys whom I sought advice from...because I didn't take their advice~!

Get going.
Change your mind later, if you need to.
Just. Get. Shooting! ;)
 
Look at the Savage 10 PC (precision carbine). It has a 20" threaded barrel, accustock and accutrigger. At just under $700, there is nothing left to buy but a bipod and decent glass.

I put a Sheperd 4-12 scope and Caldwell bipod on mine. i own any varmit under 300 yards with factory ammo. With decent reloads, mine is a 1/2 MOA shooter. I just wish it had a hinged floorplate. I have not had any problem with the detachable box magazine, but it looks cheap and they are expensive to replace.
 
I have purchased 3 Remington rifles new in the box over 30 years. All of them were less than stellar. The 700SPS with Berger Bullets was a tack driver---after 12 or so fouling shots. It required a trigger replacement because the lawyered up trigger around 2011 was trash.

The one Savage in my safe is a great rifle. Shoots lights out. Accutrigger is wonderful.
 
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