Rem Golden Bullet "New and Improved"

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Prof Young

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So the local LGS had the big bucket of 1400 rounds of Remington Golden "New and Improved." I paid $140 for 1400 rounds (Yean it's crazy isn't it.) Anyway I was sceptical, but what the heck. Shot the first 100 rounds today and they didn't mis a beat. Not one single misfire. Maybe they really are new and improved.

Live well, be safe
Prof Young
 
Should I feel guilty telling you I picked up the same bucket for $69? Either way, glad to hear they're working fine for you.
 
It's funny that you mentioned that. I've acquired several 225 round boxes of the ammo over the past 6 months or so and I just now saw today where it says new and improved. I remember shooting some of it a few months ago out of my high standard sport king and mossberg 715t and didn't have any trouble with it.
 
I picked up the same 1400 round bucket for $69 but haven't shot any yet, going through all my old bricks of GB first. But truth be told I never had any problems with the GBs in any of my guns. Winchester Super X cases get stuck in my Remington 581 and won't extract, while Federal American Eagle has feeding issues in my Ruger MkII, bullet actually bends sideways in the case when feeding! The 10/22 just eats everything it seems. But all will shoot the GBs no problem, and maybe I'm just lucky but I don't seem to get more than 1 or 2 FTFs per brick with the old ones. As far as budget .22 goes they suit me fine.
 
...maybe I'm just lucky but I don't seem to get more than 1 or 2 FTFs per brick with the old ones.
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That's 1 or 2 too many, and you shouldn't have settled for that kind of crappy quality control. :rolleyes:

That's exactly why the 'bulk pack' .22 LR is such low grade trash, these days. Too many people settled for "good enough", and now we all have to pay for it.
 
Armed_Chicagoan said:
The 10/22 just eats everything it seems.
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The Ruger 10/22 is the Kalashnikov of .22 semi-auto rifles. :D
FrankenMauser said:
...you shouldn't have settled for that kind of crappy quality control.
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I've NEVER had a Golden Bullet fail to go BANG, and I shoot them constantly because my S&W M18 loves them. :)
 
Wow.

$69 bucks for the bucket. Sounds like I'm in a way overpriced market. Where are you all getting them for $69!!! I wanna shop there.

I posted this because I'd given up on remington golden some time ago. Any trip to the range and I'd have a two to ten percent mis-fire rate. And it didn't matter what I was shooting. S&W22A, Ruger 10/22, Stevens bolt action, Rossi single shot, H&R single action six, I always had a few fail. Too many fail. The "New and improved" don't seem to have that problem. Time will tell for sure.

Live well, be safe
Merry Christmas
Prof Young
 
I think if the 10/22 is the Kalashnikov of the .22 world, the Kalashnikov must have a pretty bad reputation. Ours jams all the time and is incredibly picky about the ammo we put in it. I've heard this criticism from others as well.
 
I think if the 10/22 is the Kalashnikov of the .22 world, the Kalashnikov must have a pretty bad reputation. Ours jams all the time and is incredibly picky about the ammo we put in it. I've heard this criticism from others as well.
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Yea, and the concept of the AK being "so simple, a monkey could use it" (cue Planet of the Apes scene ;)), hardly applies to the 10/22.

If you want to have a good chuckle, hand a 10/22 to someone that's unfamiliar with them. Then ask them to do 3 things:
1. Remove the magazine.
2. Lock the bolt open.
3. Release the bolt.

They'll eventually get the magazine, and break a fingernail. Most people, however, don't figure out how to lock the bolt open, without dumb luck having an accidental influence. And, releasing it... a 95% failure rate with 'deer in the headlights' all over their face. ;)

When my wife got her 10/22 in 2008, the salesman that sold it to us went WELL out of his way to make sure we knew how to operate it, because, he claimed, over 30% of the 10/22s came back into the store with customers claiming they were "broken" because the bolt was locked open (and they couldn't figure out how to release it, or be bothered to read the manual).
 
It took me until our second range trip to learn to do number 1 and I still don't know the other two :eek: Granted, it's my brother's gun so I've only shot it a handful of times.

Anyways, an on-topic question: Is the Golden Bullet the one sold in the Remington Bucket O'Bullets? Those are about the most affordable options for buying .22, if you can find them.
 
Are you sure thats Golden Bullets? The ones I see are thunderbolts in the bucket. They shoot decently but are real dirty.

Golden bullets used to be pretty sucky on the fail to fire front, but in the last year, the ones I managed to get have been flawless. this is in contrast to the Winchester bricks I foujnd which were failing to fire about 15%. I was so disgusted I had to quit shooting, and it this environment to have .22s and not shoot them is like insulting the Pope's cat or something.
 
Folks, I didn't put enough of the right kind of smilies after Kalashnikov reference. :o It was actually meant to be kinda snide.

Think about their shared design features...
  • A high resistance to jamming and dirt, and general indifference to what kind of ammo you feed them- usually. (Mine is this way. Dakota's brother's gun is evidently an exception.)
  • Generally fair to middling accuracy out-of-the-box.
  • Springy, creepy, gritty stock trigger.
  • Really short sight radius unless you add aftermarket parts.
  • Lacks (or effectively lacks) a bolt hold-open, unless you add aftermarket parts.
  • Operating handle on wrong side, at least by today's standards. (I gotta try the "AK roll" the next time I take my 10/22 to the range. ;))
  • Barrel hard to clean using a rod from the breech end, unless you remove parts beyond what's recommended for a field strip.
OK, the AK has a better stock mag release than the 10/22, but you can duplicate that deer-in-the-headlights stare by handing an AK to a n00b and asking them how you operate the safety. :rolleyes:
dakota.potts said:
Is the Golden Bullet the one sold in the Remington Bucket O'Bullets?
zincwarrior said:
Are you sure thats Golden Bullets? The ones I see are thunderbolts in the bucket.
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The only time I've seen a real, live Bucket O'Bullets at a retailer, it appeared to be full of Golden Bullets.

Granted, (a) that was in late 2012, and (b) I've never bought one, as the retailer had a higher price tag on the Bucket than on three 550rd GB bulk packs in the regular cardboard boxes, so I bought the boxes.
 
I liked your AK-47 - 10/22 comment even before your explanation.

I've got another one...they are ubiquitous. And yes, I DID have to go to the dictionary to look that one up but IMhO it does apply.
 
GB

The GB has always been a good ctg for me. I read about FTF but the stuff I've had over the years has by far and away always gone BANG. A few fails, and a few poofs, but the % has got to be way low. And the accuracy has been good.

So much so that the GB has been my go to .22 rd for some time.

I wonder how much of this FTF business is gunky or tired guns?
 
The GB has always been a good ctg for me. I read about FTF but the stuff I've had over the years has by far and away always gone BANG. A few fails, and a few poofs, but the % has got to be way low. And the accuracy has been good.
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Golden Bullets and Thunderbolts were always good to me, through about 2005, or so. Around that time, they took a MASSIVE nosedive in quality. (On one particular occasion, I experienced a failure rate of over 30%, that was not firearms-related. You can read more here, in post #39 and #43; and/or here in posts #9 and #22.)

The older stuff was much better. I still have two metal tins of Thunderbolts (or their equivalent) from 1977 that I guard like the family jewels. It's some of the best 'general purpose' .22 LR I've ever had. It's consistent, accurate, and reliable. But, eventually, it will run out. And when it does, it will be replaced by ArmsCor or Aguila, not a Remington product.
 
Have never shot the Rem Golden bullets but I have about 80% of a brick of Thunderbolts in my ammo collection that must be at least 10 years old. Not because of ftf or other problems but because it is THE dirtiest .22 ammo I've ever fired.:eek:
 
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