Redfield Revenge 4-12x42 Scope

Why the Redfield Revenge hate? I own 3 of them in 3-9x42 and they are the clearest glass for the $ IMO. I own a Vortex Crossfire 3-9x40 and 3 Nikon Prostaffs 3-9x40's. Hands down the Revenge scopes are clearer than all of them all scopes cost me $130-$165. Every one of the above mentioned scopes make accurate adjustments are clear enough to hunt with and all have held zero over several hunting and range sessions.

The only scope I had issue with was the Vortex Crossfire. It was broken straight out the box and I had to pay shipping ($10) to send it back, however it was repaired FREE and has been flawless since.

The only scope I own that is clearer then the Revenge scopes is a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x40 but it cost roughly $100 more.
 
The Revenge I own looks like I am looking through smoked glass when using it in low light. Even some of the BSA scopes with internal plastic lenses look good in daylight. The Revenge is awful in low light.
 
CarJunkieLS1 said:
Why the Redfield Revenge hate?
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I don't hate the Revenge, simply put there are better scopes for the same money the OP wants/is looking to spend. They won't necessarily be in same power range, but I still hold to the opinion that better glass quality makes up for magnification every time. I'd rather hunt or shoot with a higher quality 4X or 6X fixed scope than a poor quality variable that gives me more magnification. As reynolds357 already mentioned we don't always shoot in the brightest times of the day, and that is where quality trumps magnification every time.
 
"...For a broke 14 year old it will!..." Does for broke anybody. Poverty sucks. And it doesn't get any better with age.
Rummage around Midway(look at their 'clearance' pages too) to get an idea if $219 is a good price. It's not really. The Leupold mentioned is running $199.99 with a duplex reticle and free shipping from Midway. Remember that you'll need ring and bases plus the cost of installation.
4X to 12X x 40 will do nicely on a .22-250.
 
"...For a broke 14 year old it will!..." Does for broke anybody. Poverty sucks. And it doesn't get any better with age.
Rummage around Midway(look at their 'clearance' pages too) to get an idea if $219 is a good price. It's not really. The Leupold mentioned is running $199.99 with a duplex reticle and free shipping from Midway. Remember that you'll need ring and bases plus the cost of installation.
4X to 12X x 40 will do nicely on a .22-250.
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I WOULD have the money if I got payed a decent wage when I worked. I work as a Machinist Assistant for my grandfather, and I don't hold it against him. But the most I've ever made was 50 cents an hour. 10 hours a day for five days a week, $100 at the end of each week. If I had a workers permit I'd make more. So I don't work that often which means I don't have a lot of money to blow on a scope just because it's more expensive.

By the way I'm getting a Prostaff 3-9x40.
 
Why the Redfield Revenge hate?
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Because they aren't worth the price.
It's that simple.



The Revolution line is much better, but essentially the same price.
Why buy a lower quality, IMPORT scope (Revenge) when you can get a better, AMERICAN MADE scope (Revolution) from the same company, for the same price?
 
I actually happen to LOVE my Revenge scopes. I paid $135 shipped for each one that I own. The same Revolution scope was $189 so they aren't essentially the same price.

I do agree I'll take higher quality glass over magnification every time. But looking with my eyes the Revenge are the best that I own for the price. And the Nikon Buckmaster I own is the BEST I own but it was over $200.

As far as low light last year I shot a doe at ~80yds opening weekend at 5:57 am. I was told if I can see it I can shoot it...I could see the white hair on its chest so I fired.

I have an unscientific test I use on every scope I own. There is a church lighted announcement board with words printed on it ~600ish yards away from my front porch. My test is exactly 15minutes before sun up and sun down. I take the scope on max power and try to read the words on the church sign. There are letters of varying sizes on it I'll say sizes 1-5. 5 being smallest 1 being largest.
I can read sizes 1-4 with Revenge scopes
Nikon ranks 1-3
Vortex Crossfire is 1-2
Nikon Buckmaster 1-5

All scopes have a max power of 9x
 
This scope for 22-250

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=NK6453&src=tpCtgOp

I have a Leupold VX3 in 3 1/2 - 10 that was initially used on a 22-250. Over about 250 yards, the scope was under powered. My 10 power Nikon Binoc's showed up much better clarity magnification than that VX3. It is satisfactory on a medium/large game rifle, but for prairie dogs, not so much.

I recently replaced a cheaper scope on my 270 Winchester with a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9, and guess what? Comparing the two scopes side by side at the rifle range, the Buckmaster is clearer and has better magnification than the VX 3. I am not sold on Leupold optics.

I have a 4.5-14 Buckmaster on a 222 Remington, and love the side focus, and it is clear, good magnification, and works at least as well as the Leupold VX2 6-18 that sits on top of my 22-250. For the dollars, my money would go to the Nikon Buckmaster.
 
CarJunkieLS1 said:
I have an unscientific test I use on every scope I own. There is a church lighted announcement board with words printed on it ~600ish yards away from my front porch. My test is exactly 15minutes before sun up and sun down.
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A better test would be to do it 30 min before sunup and 30 min after sunset. Those are the legal hunting hours for most states. I'd be interested in what your Revenge does at those time.
 
I have had bad luck with anything made by leupold/redfield. the glass on redfields is nice and clear but they are not durable and personal experience with their service dept was less than satisfactory. personally I would get a Vortex or nikon instead. the Nikon Prostaff 4-12 is about the same price and I have had good luck with it. the Vortex Diamondback is another good scope which should be able to be had for about that price range.
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I have a Revolution 3-12. I dropped the gun and smacked the scope, knocked the adjustment cap off and got erratic groups.

I sent it in knowing I would pay for the cap, the cross hairs to be checked.

It came back fixed, no charge at all.

I have shot two sub MOA groups with it out of a 1903A3.

We have a wide range of Leupold scopes and they all work well, honored warranty.

They stand by their stuff no matter how old.
 
Taylorce1 you may be right but where I hunt its pretty thick so daylight doesn't really let light in as good as other places so I felt 15 minutes before and after was all I was really able to see anyways. but either way at least it was an apples to apples comparison
 
CarJunkieLS1 said:
Taylorce1 you may be right but where I hunt its pretty thick so daylight doesn't really let light in as good as other places so I felt 15 minutes before and after was all I was really able to see anyways. but either way at least it was an apples to apples comparison
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Trust me, get better scopes and you'll be able to extend your hunting time. I used to hunt with cheap scopes, I got better glass and my ability to see and make out animals in low light improved greatly. Now I have some scopes that allow me to make things out before and after legal light.
 
In an earlier post I actually said that last year I shot a doe at 80yds last year hunting. I'm positive it was before legal hunting hours. It was 5:57 am CST on opening weekend (Nov. 20 something) I very seriously doubt that a scope costing twice as much would've made much difference. I understand that you get what you pay for as far as optics go but for my purposes I don't need nor can afford multiple $300 or higher scopes.
 
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