Redding neck doe

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axis223

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Picked up a 223 Redding neck die on sale and was wondering if anyone has any tips or advice on using it for 223 bolt gun.
 
Keep your loads at the bottom end of the pressure scale. Enough pressure to cycle the action but not so much as you will over-pressure the case.
 
From the post title I though you meant a die without horns. ;)

Is this a fixed neck die or is it one with separate neck bushings you can change?
 
I shoot a Rem. 700 308 cal. Started out with the RCBS 3 Die Set.Seater, Neck & Full Size dies. Tried both neck & full size sizing. Ordered the Redding S type bushing die set ( neck & full ) runout was higher with bushing dies but only advantage to the dies was adjusting neck tension. Found reloading for accuracy the standard RCBS standard F/L sizing die worked best in every way. Sized to .001 headspace & runout .001 & better.
 
says A series on the box and 5A on the die.

i asked the guy if it was a bushing die and he said no.

doesn't appear to be a bushing either. I'm getting 1 inch groups with FL off a bipod. just looking to not work brass so much and increase accuracy.
 
Get yourself the RCBS Precision Mic, for your 223. You measure the fired case, set up your full size die with a 7/8x 1/8 rubber O - Ring from your local hard wear store. First bring up the ram all the way on your press, screw your F/L die down to just touch the she'll holder lock your lock ring in position. Then remove the die put the o-ring under the lock ring, screw the die back into the press to just lightly squeeze the o-ring. Size your case , check the measurement with the fired case measurement . your looking to make your sized case .001 smaller then your fired case. The mic will do that & your OAL very easily. Will custom your sized rounds to your rifle. Are you using the rifle for only target shooting? All serious bench rest shooters have switched to F/L sizing not neck. Proper case prep. sizing, right bullet & powder charge, good shooting form. You should be getting that 5 shot 1 hole group. Keep up the good work . Hope I helped.
 
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hunting and target gun. I'm new to this so messing with fl die and all that was something i wanted to stay away from to not get overwhelmed so figured use the neck die for now.
 
Neck sizing is pretty simple, lube the neck only also with a Q- Tip lightly lube the inside of the case neck. Set up the die to just hit the shellholder, with the expander ball & decapping pin, adjust the pin down enough to just pop the primer out. Then your cases are fire formed. Load in the midrange of your powder listed range is best for accuracy also case & barrel life.You can neck size until you have a snugg fit in chambering or bolt lift. You don't want to gall your locking lugs on your bolt. Can clean the lube off with alcohol inside & out. Use grease on the inside edge of the locking log will keep your bolt in good shape.
 
Remove your bolt at the end of the bolt is a thicker area , those are your locking lugs they fit in a channel inside of the barrel that locks your bolt when you lower your bolt. When your case puts pressure on the back of the lugs it rounds off the square edge(galling) this causes loose locking,will effect accuracy. It doesn't happen so fast but with a steady diet of had bolt lifts it will wear the lugs. What rifle do you have, forgot to ask.
 
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Well now I have people telling me I made the wrong choice of with that neck die and even neck sizing in general with me being new.
 
Axis re: your post #5 wherein you are getting good groups using the full length die. Not wanting to overwork your brass is certainly understandable, but we would be interested in knowing how you finally adjusted the full length die for sizing, neck sizing only or for partial full length, and if using mixed brass could you get by with neck sizing only (assuming you did it that way and didn't have to set the shoulder back for partial full length sizing)? In your previous post the suggestion was made to screw the die down to where contact was made with the shell holder. The reason for that was to possibly achieve a compromise between neck sizing and full length, and hoping it would work out with mixed brass. In probably a majority of sizing adjustments, neck sizing is achieved by screwing the die to the shell holder and then backing off a quarter turn or so. But if that isn't achieved and it becomes necessary to partially full length, then screw the die a quarter turn or so past the shell holder. So by just contacting the shell holder, the idea was to see if that would work out in the middle and hardly overwork the brass and achieve proper chambering with the mixed brass. How did you finally make the adjustment?
 
You are going to here both sides but the new-ish thing is to always FL size "bumping" your shoulders .001 to .003 .

cw308 has a good suggestion about the precision mic to compare your fire formed cases to you sized cases .

Food for thought , When sizing my hunting rounds or even general purpose rounds I ALWAYS FL size and bump the shoulders .003 not the .001 that I can do for my target rifles . Reason is to insure the round will chamber 100% when I need it to .

You've had a few threads lately . I recommend you go back and read the one that talk about sizing the cases . Lots of good info in that one . As one poster in there said . Many of us were saying the same thing just in slightly differeny ways . You should be able to understand what we were driving at .
 
Ran the die in the way the directions said touch it and 1/2 turn I believe without looking at directions haven't loaded anymore after that run.
 
If you turned the die a half turn beyond the shell holder, no doubt you would have been full length sizing which could account for perfect chambering with all loads, if proper chambering in fact did occur. But after firing the rounds go back and check the die adjustments but this time be sure to back off a quarter or half turn for neck sizing only. But make sure the cases will chamber before continuing to load them. If need be, turn down in small increments if proper chambering doesn't work out after the initial backing out up to a half turn.
 
Been using a Redding neck die for years with my 6.5-06, it works great.

I neck size for every bolt action rifle I shoot. I actually prefer the Lee Collet die, mainly because it does a fine job and is relatively inexpensive, but there is nothing at all wrong with the Redding.

flashhole said:
Keep your loads at the bottom end of the pressure scale. Enough pressure to cycle the action but not so much as you will over-pressure the case.
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If his loads "cycle the action" he has a big problem with a bolt action rifle.

There is no reason to limit yourself to light loads when neck sizing for a bolt gun.
 
Originally Posted by flashhole
Keep your loads at the bottom end of the pressure scale. Enough pressure to cycle the action but not so much as you will over-pressure the case.

Hello? Good Morning?

I want a semi-auto bolt action too. :D

RE: neck sizing
You will have to FL size soon anyway, might as well be now...
 
axis223 neck sizing , instinstructions. When screwing the die to touch the shellholder then screen down 1/4 turn is to remove any slack between the die & the press threads. Now get back to neck sizing your cases and go after that 1 hole 5 shot group. You will have to buy a full size die after only neck sizing, the case body will enlarge to a point it will be hard to chamber or eject thats when you could try full sizing . You might like neck sizing over full sizing, 50% of the shooters do. It comes down to hat works better for you.
 
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