Guys,
It is always fun to read what people have to say about the P7. Try this logic...
1. Don't buy it as a first gun--the squeeze cocker is too strange.
2. Don't buy it as a second gun--once you have learned other guns, the squeeze cocker is just too wierd to learn.
hmm...would it not be simpler to just say don't buy the P7.
As far as the pistol trials go...
The stoppages were likely a result of the P7M8 being a fairly radical revision to the basic p7 line. The P7 ( and psp) had existed for a few years and was/is famed for its reliability. When they came out with the M8, HK compromised the original design with a silly american-style clip release (and a clunky 13 shot version). The problem turned out to be the early M8 magazines. I don't think the flawed magazines were ever availible to the public.
As far as reliability goes, the P7 will run rings around most of the guns mentioned so far. I have a G23, it has jammed 3 times in its first 800 rounds (that kills any chance that I am blowing money on hi-caps). I had a Sig 228, no jams (on factory ammo...my old reloads could jam a single shot zip gun) but the guns started working a pin out of the slide almost immediately. BHP, in my limited experience, are not worth the hassel. I had a USP40c and it was reliable, but so-so in accuracy and clunky as heck. The P7 will run circles around them all. Get with it guys!
GHB
PS...
The rust problem remains a problem. When you buy a gun that is machined out of a solid block of forged carbon steel you end up with a gun that can rust. Sadly, you won't be able to leave your P7 in the mud for a year. On the other hand, barring mudslides your P7 will be shooting long after the plastic and aluminum guns have fallen to pieces.
[This message has been edited by Greg Bell (edited October 21, 1999).]
It is always fun to read what people have to say about the P7. Try this logic...
1. Don't buy it as a first gun--the squeeze cocker is too strange.
2. Don't buy it as a second gun--once you have learned other guns, the squeeze cocker is just too wierd to learn.
hmm...would it not be simpler to just say don't buy the P7.
As far as the pistol trials go...
The stoppages were likely a result of the P7M8 being a fairly radical revision to the basic p7 line. The P7 ( and psp) had existed for a few years and was/is famed for its reliability. When they came out with the M8, HK compromised the original design with a silly american-style clip release (and a clunky 13 shot version). The problem turned out to be the early M8 magazines. I don't think the flawed magazines were ever availible to the public.
As far as reliability goes, the P7 will run rings around most of the guns mentioned so far. I have a G23, it has jammed 3 times in its first 800 rounds (that kills any chance that I am blowing money on hi-caps). I had a Sig 228, no jams (on factory ammo...my old reloads could jam a single shot zip gun) but the guns started working a pin out of the slide almost immediately. BHP, in my limited experience, are not worth the hassel. I had a USP40c and it was reliable, but so-so in accuracy and clunky as heck. The P7 will run circles around them all. Get with it guys!
GHB
PS...
The rust problem remains a problem. When you buy a gun that is machined out of a solid block of forged carbon steel you end up with a gun that can rust. Sadly, you won't be able to leave your P7 in the mud for a year. On the other hand, barring mudslides your P7 will be shooting long after the plastic and aluminum guns have fallen to pieces.
[This message has been edited by Greg Bell (edited October 21, 1999).]