Recoiless Firearms ?

couldnt have said any of this any better.

I did shoot a .223 the other day with a scope that felt like a .22.
But guess what....
A .22 STILL HAS RECOIL!!!!!!!!!!! :P lol
 
For the ultimate in recoiless rifles, the Germans hung an 8" gun under an airplane to shoot at ships from outside the range of the AAA. While they managed to make it recoil free, the vibrations from setting the thing off tended to tear the airplane apart after few rounds. Was never used in combat afaik.
 
The only recoilless rifle I ever shot was dud round. It had zero recoil, but also the bullet never left the barrel either...............lol
 
Recoilless vs. Recoil reduced

Mike already pointed out that the recoil appears to be redirected and turned into rotational force. Mass of the weapon was mentioned as well, and Sigcurious mentioned the Kriss Super V. The Kriss weighs around half as much as a Thompson, but the technology allows it to give significantly decreased felt recoil.

MagnumWill hit the nail on the head:
Increase timeframe of force application. (Knoxx camming-system)
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No, a French 75 or a 105mm Howitizer are not recoiless by any means. The carraige doesn't move because the spades on the trail are dug into the ground but the tube certainly recoils.
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Oh contraire mon frère

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_modèle_1897
The French 75 is widely regarded as the first modern artillery piece.[1][2] It was the first field gun to include a hydro-pneumatic recoil mechanism, which kept the gun's trail and wheels perfectly still during the firing sequence.
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I never said the 75 was recoilless. I said "greatly reduced".

Yes many semi auto handguns have floating barrels. It help reduce felt recoil compared to fixed barrel guns.
Few small arms afaik have floating actions and barrels.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Too many people in this thread are being PC about the difference between recoil and felt recoil. I think a plain reading of the article indicates the authors are using recoil synonymously with felt recoil.

This device seems like an unworkable attempt to solve a non-problem. It should be judge on what scant technical info offered, not on whether the jargon measures up.
 
Is that like "smokeless" not meaning "no smoke?" Years ago, some gunwriter used the pen name "Les Smoke" on his articles.

Well, a French 75 and every other tube artillery weapon will recoil substantially if the spade is not dug into the ground. It was, however, the first field gun with a recoil mechanism and that allowed the gun to do the recoiling while the carriage remained still but it still had to be dug in in order for that to happen. The advantage was mostly in laying the gun; it didn't have to be re-aimed between shots.

The French were in short supply of artillery at the beginning of the war and used some very old guns that had no recoil mechanism. They were used with ramps to make the guns return to battery. They caught up later in production and even supplied the US Army with most of their guns, which is why most US Artillery has the same nominal calibers as the French. The British supplied us with 8-inch howitizers, which is why we had, before decimilization, 8-inch howitizers when everything else was in millimeters. We also made our own 8-inch howitizers and 75mm guns.
 
Recoil reduction systems have existed for a long time. I doubt the company is trying to claim they make a product that eliminates recoil entirely.
 
This seems to be the long way around the barn, for a limited effect that is already available using the simpler and more effective Garyev/Koksharov "balanced" system seen on the AEK-971; in fact, I have to wonder why someone isn't already doing something like this on a piston AR. In the AEK-971, the gas impulse both drives the bolt carrier rearwards, and a geared counterweight FORWARD, so the rearward (bolt carrier + recoil) and forward (counterweight) impulses cancel each other out. This is a lot simpler than the Nikonov AN-94 the Russians ended up adopting, and can be adapted to most rifle-size systems fairly easily. You can see a video of these rifles being tested against one another at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOozMdEV_AU , with the AEK-971 up first.
 
Recoil-shmecoil. Shooting a gun that doesn't recoil would be like drinking a shot of whiskey that had no kick. How do you know it's working if it doesn't smack you upside the head?
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Excellent post :D:D

In reality, even a water pistol has recoil.
 
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Palmetto-Pride said:
The only recoilless rifle I ever shot was dud round. It had zero recoil, but also the bullet never left the barrel either...............lol
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I dunno about that, leave a chamber empty in a .44 magnum revolver and let someone else shoot it. Watch that gun "kick" when the hammer drops on that empty chamber.:D
 
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