CGSteve8718
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Thanks for that gc70. I've read those before, but have forgotten it was that limited.
So I guess that brings us now to the 14 Amendment which is supposed to incorporate the BoR, if not for the controversial (seems to be in this thread) selective incorporation.
With that in mind, I guess whenever we see our fellow gun owners cite a state law as being unconstitutional regarding firearms laws, it really isn't? CA, NY, are the prime examples. And even more alarming, 1st, and 4th Amendment violations can't be deemed unconstitutional (without the 14th) either?
This is upsetting to me. As mentioned, I knew about the reluctance of the founding generation to adopt the USC without the bill of rights, but I've always understood the laws to be heirarchical, as in local laws<state law<federal law/USC. I would say that natural law trumps all of the afromentioned, but have a feeling you'd be laughed out of court today for saying that.
I am for having the states retain as much rights as possible and having as small a federal govt. as possible, with the exception of prohibitions on violations of individual liberties a la the BoR, but I guess I misunderstood the 10th Amendment.
So I guess that brings us now to the 14 Amendment which is supposed to incorporate the BoR, if not for the controversial (seems to be in this thread) selective incorporation.
With that in mind, I guess whenever we see our fellow gun owners cite a state law as being unconstitutional regarding firearms laws, it really isn't? CA, NY, are the prime examples. And even more alarming, 1st, and 4th Amendment violations can't be deemed unconstitutional (without the 14th) either?
This is upsetting to me. As mentioned, I knew about the reluctance of the founding generation to adopt the USC without the bill of rights, but I've always understood the laws to be heirarchical, as in local laws<state law<federal law/USC. I would say that natural law trumps all of the afromentioned, but have a feeling you'd be laughed out of court today for saying that.
I am for having the states retain as much rights as possible and having as small a federal govt. as possible, with the exception of prohibitions on violations of individual liberties a la the BoR, but I guess I misunderstood the 10th Amendment.