Re: Squeezed and nothing happened.
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I have to disagree with you that a primer charge is enough to push a bullet out of the barrel, especially if it is a long barrel. I had a situation happen with a gun of mine. I was at the range shooting with my son and a friend of his. My son's friend was shooting my S & W Model 637 snub nose .38. After he had fired several rounds, he called to me and said that the last one he fired did not sound right. I took the gun and opened the cylinder to check the barrel. Sure enough there was a bullet stuck in the barrel. So the primer charge was not enough to push the bullet out of even that short 2 inch barrel. And this is not a "somebody said" it happened. I was an eye witness to it happening.
And it was not a reload of mine. I don't reload. It was either a factory new round or could have been a factory reload. I had both at the time and it was a few years ago so I can't at this time tell which.
An interesting tidbit, I once found a factory reloaded round with the primer seated backwards. I think I still have that cartridge laying around somewhere.
dascottsman
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I was going to say you might want to try more fiber in your diet.......
No, but I did see a misfire due to someone not putting any powder into a cartridge and when the primer was discharged, it casued enough pressure to push the bullet HALF WAY down the barrel and the next round found it VERY unpleasant that it remained in the barrel causung an explosion. The reulting failure to feed was the least of his problems, but he was actually ok, just a bit shaken up. Be careful of gun show reloads......... Glock 17, mushroomed the barrel when it exploded, lifted the slide off the frame, but never seperated from it. He was using a Glock factory 33 round "night stick" mag that the bottom blew out of and it puked out the rest of the rounds on the ground. It also scrambled the internals and launched the trigger which cut his finger a bit.
No, but I did see a misfire due to someone not putting any powder into a cartridge and when the primer was discharged, it casued enough pressure to push the bullet HALF WAY down the barrel and the next round found it VERY unpleasant that it remained in the barrel causung an explosion. The reulting failure to feed was the least of his problems, but he was actually ok, just a bit shaken up. Be careful of gun show reloads......... Glock 17, mushroomed the barrel when it exploded, lifted the slide off the frame, but never seperated from it. He was using a Glock factory 33 round "night stick" mag that the bottom blew out of and it puked out the rest of the rounds on the ground. It also scrambled the internals and launched the trigger which cut his finger a bit.
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No, Winchester 73, a primer is not always enough to push the bullet clear of the barrel.
The answer of what to do with any failure to fire depends on the circumstances, and it is not a good idea to have some automatic response.
If you are on a range, and suspect a hang fire, keep the gun pointed down range for at least 30 seconds, then keep the gun away from your face while you open the slide/cylinder (if you can) and determine the problem.
If you are in a self defense situation, then you have to take a risk; if you have a revolver, squeeze off the next round. If you have an auto pistol, rack the slide and squeeze off. And hope that anything bad happens to the other guy.
Some of the "super training" guys believe anyone with a gun in hand should always act automatically, without ever thinking. I can tell them that the guy who doesn't think can be in big trouble, one way or another.
Jim
The answer of what to do with any failure to fire depends on the circumstances, and it is not a good idea to have some automatic response.
If you are on a range, and suspect a hang fire, keep the gun pointed down range for at least 30 seconds, then keep the gun away from your face while you open the slide/cylinder (if you can) and determine the problem.
If you are in a self defense situation, then you have to take a risk; if you have a revolver, squeeze off the next round. If you have an auto pistol, rack the slide and squeeze off. And hope that anything bad happens to the other guy.
Some of the "super training" guys believe anyone with a gun in hand should always act automatically, without ever thinking. I can tell them that the guy who doesn't think can be in big trouble, one way or another.
Jim
Ye
Multiple instances. Most recent was with a rental Gen3 Glock 19 and factory ammo. I had at least 3 out of 1 box click vs bang. Took the gun back got a 92fs and no problems.
Also had it happen with surplus French .50 BMG. Apparently the reason it was so cheap was that the primers required a very hefty Punch from the firing pin. A real pucker factor as you don't want to take your focus off the weapon, target or how you were holding this particular rifle as it had no muzzle brake.
.22's at Scout camp also seemed to be a daily occurrence.
Multiple instances. Most recent was with a rental Gen3 Glock 19 and factory ammo. I had at least 3 out of 1 box click vs bang. Took the gun back got a 92fs and no problems.
Also had it happen with surplus French .50 BMG. Apparently the reason it was so cheap was that the primers required a very hefty Punch from the firing pin. A real pucker factor as you don't want to take your focus off the weapon, target or how you were holding this particular rifle as it had no muzzle brake.
.22's at Scout camp also seemed to be a daily occurrence.
lambertsteeth
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Not with a handgun.
I've had a few with shotgun rounds.
I've shot many more shotgun rounds than handgun rounds.
I've had a few with shotgun rounds.
I've shot many more shotgun rounds than handgun rounds.
Nope, never seen a hangfire with modern ammunition. Seen it with blackpowder stuff.
Usually, a squib is a good primer and no powder. In an autoloader, usually the bullet will stick just out of the case, and will block the next round, keeping the action from going into battery. Once, in the middle of an IPSC stage, I saw a bullet get right to the the end of the barrel, sticking halfway out of the muzzle- that was neat. Fortunately, the shooter was able to stop himself in time.
I had a visit to the range years ago with an old model 10. My buddy was a few lanes down and said that his last few shots hadn't hit paper. I was perplexed. Before I could answer, he had fired a couple more shots and told me the gun locked up. He'd had a squib on the factory reloads, then stacked another 4 or 5 bullets in the barrel.
Usually, a squib is a good primer and no powder. In an autoloader, usually the bullet will stick just out of the case, and will block the next round, keeping the action from going into battery. Once, in the middle of an IPSC stage, I saw a bullet get right to the the end of the barrel, sticking halfway out of the muzzle- that was neat. Fortunately, the shooter was able to stop himself in time.
I had a visit to the range years ago with an old model 10. My buddy was a few lanes down and said that his last few shots hadn't hit paper. I was perplexed. Before I could answer, he had fired a couple more shots and told me the gun locked up. He'd had a squib on the factory reloads, then stacked another 4 or 5 bullets in the barrel.