Range gun, definition
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Thanks for all the great answers.
My situation is that my intended carry guns are getting more range time than any of my other guns. I have a definite issue with reliability using cheap range ammo (Rem UMC 9mm 115g FMJ) on my Kahr, but seems to shoot well with quality SD ammo. I got that figured out now so I guess it's time I bring out my "range guns" again.
My situation is that my intended carry guns are getting more range time than any of my other guns. I have a definite issue with reliability using cheap range ammo (Rem UMC 9mm 115g FMJ) on my Kahr, but seems to shoot well with quality SD ammo. I got that figured out now so I guess it's time I bring out my "range guns" again.
which definition would that be?
a weapon by definition is:
or a gun by definition is:
that's the dictionary definition, and i'm pretty sure the legal definition would disagree with you also
just for reference, your personal definition doesnt count
guns are not toys, and even a range gun is a weapon
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That is my definition of a "range gun." For example: Right now I'm researching what I want for a range gun. It'll be used solely for informal, combat-style paper-punching, shooting pins occasionally, and perhaps IDPA, IPSC or USPSA competition. It'll be 9mm, where I carry .40 S&W for SD. The .40 S&W piece will still see range time, of course. I want to be proficient with it, should I ever need it in a SD situation. But for just "playing": It'll be the range gun.
There are as many definitions as there are dictionaries. The first two I happened on didn't have the "or designed to" clause included.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weapon[1]
1 : something (as a club, knife, or gun) used to injure, defeat, or destroy
2 : a means of contending against another
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/weapon
1. An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword.
2. Zoology A part or organ, such as a claw or stinger, used by an animal in attack or defense.
3. A means used to defend against or defeat another: Logic was her weapon.
tr.v. weap·oned, weap·on·ing, weap·ons
To supply with weapons or a weapon; arm.
In any definition, the USE of the item should be high on the list since virtually anything can be a weapon regardless of its design if the person holding it so intends.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weapon[1]
1 : something (as a club, knife, or gun) used to injure, defeat, or destroy
2 : a means of contending against another
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/weapon
1. An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword.
2. Zoology A part or organ, such as a claw or stinger, used by an animal in attack or defense.
3. A means used to defend against or defeat another: Logic was her weapon.
tr.v. weap·oned, weap·on·ing, weap·ons
To supply with weapons or a weapon; arm.
In any definition, the USE of the item should be high on the list since virtually anything can be a weapon regardless of its design if the person holding it so intends.
your definition says
it's a gun, it's intended use is to destroy the target, therefor even under your definition, it's a weapon.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weapon
despite our ego's, our perceptions, our wants or hopes, a range gun is still a weapon.. even if a persons machismo stops them from admitting it
it didnt work out so well for bill clinton, but you might have better luck
by any chance, did you look up the definition of "gun" while you were at it?
it's a gun, it's intended use is to destroy the target, therefor even under your definition, it's a weapon.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weapon
despite our ego's, our perceptions, our wants or hopes, a range gun is still a weapon.. even if a persons machismo stops them from admitting it
if you belive it should be changed, then i suggest petitioning the various dictionaries
it didnt work out so well for bill clinton, but you might have better luck
by any chance, did you look up the definition of "gun" while you were at it?
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carguychris
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+2 on this being the best list so far, but I'll add one.
5) It's really big and heavy.
If it's a handgun, this makes it "hang" really nicely (i.e. stay exactly on target), and it'll soak up the recoil of a big, beefy cartridge so you won't want to put it away after the first 50-rd box. If it's a rifle, it probably has a really heavy bull barrel so you can fire dozens of rounds through it in a short time without the heat affecting its accuracy.
However, you wouldn't want to tote that heavy sucker through the field.
I agree that "intended use" is the watermark.
The intended use for my range guns is to poke neat little holes (the neater the better) in paper, not to destroy anything. And certainly not to be used to injure or or defeat.
As I pointed out, and as your definition involving "intended use" indicates, a good number of dictionaries define weapons in terms of "use". So there's no need to do any petitioning for change.
Interesting. So because you would like the definition of "weapon" to be more general than I believe it is it must be because of my "machismo"? So much for philosophical differences...
Just to satisfy my own curiosity, what particular characteristic of machismo is it that you believe keeps a person from admitting that a range gun is a weapon?