Raidex Crayons as lead cast bullet lube: Any experiences?

That's funny, Brian. And now that it's been brought up, I hope, for your sake, that you don't find yourself dreaming about changing out toilets tonight.;)
But you are exactly right, these lube recipes are like an alloy of metals melted together, but in this case, it's mutually soluble oils, fats, waxes, etc. Oftentimes it really doesn't matter what the source of the ingredients are, as long as the finished product has the right properties to do its job. However, weird as it may be, if you use lard or tallow in your lube, or if the rumor gets out that you do, someone down the firing line could feel defiled by your gunsmoke:eek:
Here's a story about how just such a thing as unclean bullet lube caused some serious offenses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Rebellion_of_1857
And that's why be don't need to have religious debates foul up a forum dedicated to the shooting sports.
 
My high school history teacher spent hours on war. He actually threw that in. He spent a lot of time focusing on weaponry. Maybe that was a good thing. I leaned how to paper patch a bullet
 
Thanks briandg,

Thanks for that Explanation. I did not know it at all.

I did not know These Forums are for someone to make his living.
I did not know they are "Commercial Enterprises".

I allways considered the Internet as an Experiment started by anarchists which is utterly successfull.

Now I see that I may have scared off some "customers" if Cast Boolits Forums are "Commercial". I did not know it was "all about Business" since guns and reloading for me is a free time Sport.

Now I understand better. I just would not see why I should post anything on any Forum if it is "all Business" since knowledge and science gets perverted if Money gets involved.

mikld: the concept "attitude" is Kind of open to any Interpretation.

But now I see and know that all non-Mainstream is not welcome.
 
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Yeah, we could all stand to lighten up every now and then. I've been corrected at least a couple of times here, and that's OK. (Inspite of the fact that I've never been wrong. I thought I was wrong, just once; but I was mistaken!);)
What I have learned in this thread, is that if I run out of bullet lube, in a pinch, I could raid my granddaughter's crayons, right? Think of all the colors......:)
 
If it were not for experimentation, where would we all be?

Remember what we all went thru during the last several years when components were almost impossible to find.

We got what we could and experimented.

I would say good job to TheGuyOfSouthAmerica. Damn good job.
 
Pathfinder: want to know something else crayons are good for?

Imagine that you have an old elm stump. Imagine that you dug a couple holes in it. Imagine throwing a big load of charcoal and a bunch of your wife's candles and the great big box of broken unused crayons in it.

Imagine what happens when youre caught. At least the stump was gone.
 
To reiterate. I am referring me to EXCLUSIVELY These: [Crayon] animal markers as bullet lube. I am referring me to these: http://www.raidex.de/en/products/ani...ng-sticks.html.

ONLY this brand I have tried and no other.
They stay soft as lip sticks but are harder. Till about 176 Farenheit (80 degrees Celsius) they will stay solid and no oils are seeping into powder contaminating it. Obviously they should not melt on the animal Skin even if exposed to direct sunshine (I do not believe the animal Skin will get to 176 Farenheit in sunshine).

Although you may not want to leave ammunition or gun in direct sunshine in desert like zones or semiarid zones like I live in (Arizona, Texas, etc.).
With Lithium grease I used before (I left it because it is a bit of a mess) you could leave the ammo in sunshine heat and it will not melt.

Till now I shot about 18 shot reloads using this lube and can not detect leading (at least not more than normal). There are darker parts in the Barrel if I look through but nothing Comes out if it gets brushed. Those discolouration I got too with FMJ bullets.
 
I shot today the reloaded deep seated 38 spl. They are seated to 0.100" after flush with case mouth.
I can NOT see anymore bulges near the rim. That may indicate an overpressure issue when seated to 0.125" (after flush).
No detectable leading whatsoever.

I shot an oostrich today with 5 shots from about 35 meters with These deep seated 38 spl reloads (124 grain Lee TC TL .356" diam lead bullets over 3.0 grains of 700X type scavenged shotshell powder). First 4 shots I hit him I believe 2 times (on each side is an entrance wound). Or it may be I hit him once and the bullet exited on the other side but both Look like entrances. 2 misses at 35 meters as I know. Last shot to finish him off from 1 meter.
Yesterday I shot with 2 shots an aligator. First hit in Body and second pressumably on head: just went plain straigth down to the ground of the waterplace.

As well I placed the reloads lubed with animal marker Crayons (Raidl Raidex made in Germany by Hauptner&Herberholz) under hot sun on my truck to see if the Crayon lube starts to melt or seep oils. I put them there for about 1 hour. They could just be touched just barely with the Hands so hot they got (even I notice the primers had backed off a bit from pressure built up of the sunshine). They must have had at least 50 to 60 degrees Celsius. NO MELTING OF LUBE DETECTED NOR OIL SEEPING even when turned upside down.

I guess I have to order an chronograph.

As well I tried one of the birdshot 38 spl. At 5 Yards just one part of an "halfmoon" hit an 200 Liter drum and did not even dent the brittle plastic. It is basically useless for more than 3 Yards and has way to less power (3.0 grains 700X type shotgun powder over about 100 grains filled in the 357 Magnum case). I do not believe an snake will be dead if get shot (just too less energy). But I did not detect any leading at all.
 
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