Geezerbiker
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One thing to consider is that an air rifle doesn't have to have a class 3 permit to have a suppressor. You can even get one with it permanently attached...
Tony
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Quietest 22lr bolt/lever
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Boomer58cal said:
Unfortunately, these won't stabilize in my .22 rifle, keyholes at 25 yards. My revolver does stabilize them, perhaps it has just a little faster rifling pitch. Try a single box of these and see if your rifle stabilizes these bullets before buying them by the brick.
The quietest shooting .22 will be the longest barrel .22.
The quietest reloading .22, I would say a break open single shot with an extractor instead of an ejector. You can unlock it and slowly sneak it open and slowly close it almost silently, and then hold the trigger back while you cock the hammer to prevent the sear engagement click. Those high frequency clicks are very easy for spooked game to locate.
Of course, an autoloader eliminates reloading noise between shots.
The quietest reloading .22, I would say a break open single shot with an extractor instead of an ejector. You can unlock it and slowly sneak it open and slowly close it almost silently, and then hold the trigger back while you cock the hammer to prevent the sear engagement click. Those high frequency clicks are very easy for spooked game to locate.
Of course, an autoloader eliminates reloading noise between shots.
Lux and cb long question
"CB Long (29gr) = 558 fps ave"
"So even a CB Long will hit much harder than a pellet out of an air rifle."
Just for comparison...my beeman r1 .22 likes 14.5 gr pellets. They are probably going in the vicinity of 800 fps. It's certainly not quiet but it can shoot three shot 1 ragged hole at 47 ft.
I've always liked those cz lux . I've fooled a lot with cb long but I don't have any .22 lr rifles with a trigger as nice as my r1. I'm guessing the lux has a nice trigger. Can it shoot cb long in 1 ragged hole?
"CB Long (29gr) = 558 fps ave"
"So even a CB Long will hit much harder than a pellet out of an air rifle."
Just for comparison...my beeman r1 .22 likes 14.5 gr pellets. They are probably going in the vicinity of 800 fps. It's certainly not quiet but it can shoot three shot 1 ragged hole at 47 ft.
I've always liked those cz lux . I've fooled a lot with cb long but I don't have any .22 lr rifles with a trigger as nice as my r1. I'm guessing the lux has a nice trigger. Can it shoot cb long in 1 ragged hole?
Probably not, I have not seen good accuracy with CB longs, even out of a rifle that will shoot Wolf MT into one ragged hole at 50 yards.
Also, they were not particularly quiet, seems they don't develop enough pressure to expand the case against the chamber walls to seal the gasses and the blowback is pretty loud. This may be a factor in this ammo's inconsistantcy.
Plus, they are more expensive than .22 LR
CCI quiet .22LR, on the other hand seems to be pretty accurate and very quiet, you mostly just hear the hammer drop and then the bullet smacking into the target.
Here's a 50 yard group using CCI Quiet .22LR This rifle was sighted in to hit the bullseye at 50 yards using standard velocity .22 LR, you can see that the low velocity of the CCI Quiet .22LR hits about 4 inches low at 50 yards. These are certainly more powerful than any air rifle and the 40 grain bullet will be much less deflected by crosswinds.
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Thanks for showing the targets. Looks like I need to upgrade my .22lr rifle collection. I don't have anything that could shoot any brand of ammo as good as the wolf and your rifle at 50 yards. My newest is a marlin 39a but the trigger needs some work in order to see how accurate the rifle really is. It might be time to treat myself to a quality bolt action .22lr with a nice trigger.
I have never successfully shot a one-hole group at that particular range at those targets. My one-hole groups were all achieved shooting at targets that have a diamond shaped aiming point instead of a bullseye. The fact that the range that issues targets with diamond shaped aiming points is also an indoor range probably factors in also. It takes away the element of crosswinds.
johnwilliamson062
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From the shooters position. I believe there is little difference once minimum rifle length is met from down range. A pistol may actually be quieter as the sound is not as sharp. I am comparing the sound of centerfires not rimfires though and not equal calibers(rifle v. pistol cartridges). I don't have any experience being downrange of rimfires.
I don't have any hard evidence, just some extrapolated generalizations from limited experience.
DannyB1954
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22 shorts can be fired in most rifles. They are fairly quiet, and are enough for Racoons and such.
johnwilliamson062 said:
There's no way I will shoot a .22 pistol or revolver without hearing protection. With a 24 inch barrel rifle, I often don't bother, especially shooting standard or sub sonic ammo.
The .22 rimfire is essentially a pistol round and the powder charge is consumed completely in a short barrel pistol. In a rifle, the powder charge is still completely consumed in the first inch or so of bullet travel down the bore, residual pressure continues to accelerate the bullet until about the 14 inch point. From there on, the bullet is essentially coasting, the pressure behind it dropping fast as the gasses expand and cool. By the time the bullet reaches the end of the 24 inch barrel, there is little pressure left. The signature "whipcrack" sound of a high velocity LR is actually more the bullet breaking the speed of sound as it travels through the air than it is gun report.
Air rifles will also make that whipcrack noise if they are supersonic.
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Mike
I used to take bottle nipples and put over the barrel of my Winchester. I used LR and would do it out my bedroom window popping Robins in my back yard. Next door was an old lady that used to complain to my mom about my music. Not a peep about the birds until she saw me picking one up. She accused me of killing it with my slingshot hah!
She never heard the spit from the Winchester.
Mike
I used to take bottle nipples and put over the barrel of my Winchester. I used LR and would do it out my bedroom window popping Robins in my back yard. Next door was an old lady that used to complain to my mom about my music. Not a peep about the birds until she saw me picking one up. She accused me of killing it with my slingshot hah!
She never heard the spit from the Winchester.
crazycrave
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Remington 510 Targetmaster has a 26' barrel..
