Quick draw McGraw...horse pucky...

Some of those times are great! I have to take off my hat to folks who can teach that kind of thing on a regular basis. I only hope they also teach the bit about "engage brain..." A few years ago, one of the gunzine gurus urged drawing and firing "at the first sign of danger." I only hoped that he didn't unexpectedly encounter a kid on a skateboard.

Jim
 
The BG seldom has the mental "triggers" set.
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I just got off the phone with a convicted cop killer. The cop "went for his gun" and the BG won. You should hear their side of this story. Such folks think we don't have OUR mental triggers set. In fact they find our "training" rather amusing. I'm interviewing
numerous cop killers. The gun magazines should have tried this, but it isn't what we want to hear.
Compared to most gun rags my web page will have NAMES, DATES AND PLACES. You know, verifiable info. Not some nebulous "they said and we heard."
Today, this fellow (P. Cole) also told me what he thought of armed home owners. We won't like that either. He has agreed to provide us with some literary efforts about his confrontations with police and home owners over the years. I think we need to hear that side.
Some of the things he said upset me pretty good, but it was hard to argue with his logic. We need more input from that side. Then you can tell him that he doesn't have a clue. Include YOUR address of course.
 
Ankeny,

What can I say, maybe there's some aspect of your presentation that takes up at little too much time. 1.7 seconds is admirable, though. As for the claim of the 4-day course, they do have a very good corriculum, with very competent instructors. Check out "Our Students Speak" at the website. I can attest that there is no bull there, I've trained with a lot of those students, and many others who make the times. It really isn't uncommon.

Desertscout: "I know that I will catch hell for stating this, I have before. But an open invitation stands for anyone that would like to prove/disprove it. Just e-mail me and I'll give you directions to my range."

You're not gonna catch any from me, but hey, I'd kinda like to call Plusp out to "Simmunitions at say, any distance/lighting that he would choose." However, I'm one for "fair play". Maybe I'd start with my back to him, and draw/response-rear when I heard him clear leather. ;)
 
I'm no expert and I don't play one on the Web, but it seems to me that if you're in a situation where you're trying to outdraw someone you've already lost. Why? Part of carrying is having situational awareness. The responsibility of carrying firearms demands greater awareness of surroundings, identifying potential threats, staying distant from people say in a mall or street to avoid gun grabbers, avoiding obviously dangerous places, etc. etc. If you let carrying and the ability to draw fast at a range lull you into security you just might be in for a major surprise.

To me the ability of someone to draw fast is admirable in the sense of watching a skilled race car driver. What impresses me far more are people who have been in shooting situations, lived, and then share their exerience with novices that haven't been.

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So many pistols, so little money.

[This message has been edited by Tecolote (edited February 17, 2000).]
 
FYI, here's some fast shooting info.

It's part of a response to an e-mail I
received on another but related matter.

Lieutenant Joseph Walsh, as listed in the Guinness Book
of Worlds Records 1985 edition, fires 2 (two) colt python
revolvers at the same time, 5 (five) rounds each pistol
at a distance of 15' (fifteen feet). All 10 (ten) shots
fired in 9/10ths of 1 second into a target.

The resulting group can be covered by two standard playing
cards.

Administration Division
Morris County Sheriff's Office
Morristown, N.J.

I don't know if he still does this and I do
note that the distance is less than that
stated here.

A pistol is not a small rifle, so why shoot
one like it is.
 
FWIW, I think that fast draw is wonderful fun (I have done plenty of it), and most of the gun games are great sport. But I am not sure what they have to do with self defense, which is (IMHO) a whole way of thinking, not just being able to draw fast or shoot accurately.

Jim
 
Jim:

I agree, that's why I said I was approaching the question from a purely "gamesmanship" point of view. You know, considering I don't practice a fast draw, I suppose I do OK. The evening I tried it against the timer I was using a pistol I had for less than one week with a fairly heavy cover garment. I suppose an experienced shooter could make the 1.5 second time after 4 days of practice. I still doubt the average joe off the street could do it. Then again, Joe Average doesn't go to Gun Sight or Thunder Ranch does he?
 
Any advantage is still an advantage.

Practice, practice, practice............(thank you, IPSC)




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