Question to Dfariswheel on Pythons and .357 in general

Doug Im not sure why you'd want to shoot 357's all the time for just a range gun, but if your willing to shoot more of a load of 38specials almost anything will last a life time for you. I have an older python, m19 and a few new 686's (including a new blued 586 that I truely adore shooting). If you must shoot only 357's, Id suggest buying something new with a much longer life span than something old and possibly abused.

OH, I wasn't planning to shoot .357 all the time. Mainly .38 specials. But often I like to take a box of .38+P or .38+P corbon through my gun to test it in recoil an effect on objects. I can shoot those through my current Official Police revolvers but I'd rather not take the chance of wearing down an old nice gun like those. A .357 is built to take such rounds on a regular basis and plus I'd like to be able to shoot the full .357 every now and then to have the full effect of that caliber.
 
One thing to point out though from your previous posts I've followed. If you persist in "speed shooting" for "cover fire" and fast trigger work you are hammering the action of any handgun. You will be abusing it and will damage and wear it out. If you want to rip off as many shots as possible in as short a time as possible perhaps you need to investigate one of the new well made semi-autos. You'll break them too but at least you won't be destroying a classic.

Well, I understand from Dfariswheel that there is a difference between rapid fire and jerking the trigger back.

When I first got my 1944 Official Police I would SLAM :eek: the trigger back as hard as I could in Double Action in dryfire to test it to see if the bolt would catch. I used to SLAM it back in rapid fire.

Now I sqeeze it back when rapid firing. I can feel the difference now in teh way I handle the gun. squeezing your finger back against the trigger as fast but maintaining it as a squeeze doesn't hammer the action. Whiplashing my finger for rapid fire does and sometimes even whips the trigger back before it's fully reset itself preventing me from shooting.

Bogarting the gun is another thing I used to do with my gun when I first got it. WHAP WHAP. "So that's how they do it in the movies!!!" WHAP WHAP! WHAP WHAP! over and over. It didn't do any noticable damage to the gun that they eye could see, but it did bend the frame to some extent and possibly messed up the timing. It was one of the first things Pittsburg Handgun noticed and fixed when they got it for repairs.

Now I know better. I can rapid fire the revolver, but I've learned to do it without whipping the trigger. Plus when you are firing actual bullets in the gun, its easier to rapid fire when you DON"T whip the trigger, because your whole hand isn't involved in slamming the trigger back which you have to refit into your hand every time the gun fires. The hand is stablizing the gun while your finger is squeezing if you do it right.
 
OH, I wasn't planning to shoot .357 all the time. Mainly .38 specials. But often I like to take a box of .38+P or .38+P corbon through my gun to test it in recoil an effect on objects. I can shoot those through my current Official Police revolvers but I'd rather not take the chance of wearing down an old nice gun like those. A .357 is built to take such rounds on a regular basis and plus I'd like to be able to shoot the full .357 every now and then to have the full effect of that caliber.

Almost anything with a full barrel underlug will be fine. I shoot alot of 357's, I've never had a problem. Even my m19 over the decades has had alot of mag's w/no ill effects either.
 
A full barrel underlug is the extra metal encasing the extractor rod that runs the full length of the barrel - like the Colt Python. Older S&W's have a classic or "half" underlug, giving them that elegant "stepped" appearance that so pleases my eye. A lot of the newer S&W's, like the 586/686 models for example, have that Python-like full-length underlug. Bulky and ungraceful to my eye. However, it adds extra mass to the end of the barrel and helps tame magnum recoil.

How S&W's Model 28 became the "Highway Patrolman".
The earliest (1954) models were stamped on the barrel "Highway Patrol", indicating that S&W intended to market this massive N-Frame gun to police officers from the beginning. The honor of the name change belongs to Mrs. Florence Van Orden of The Evaluators, Ltd., who suggested it to then S&W president Carl Hellstrom. 8,427 were produced the first year.
[Source: Supica, et al, The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson 2nd Ed.]
 
Doug, my M19 has about 45K, yes 45 THOUSAND, rounds through it. About 9000 of these have been magnums, about 8000 of them are WAAAYYYY stronger than any factory ammo you can buy commercially except Buffalo bore and Double Tap. ALL of the magnums except a couple boxes have been 125 grain bullets too.

The K-frame being weak is pure-D BS, overblown internet rumor. I have some other high mileage K-frames that are also holding up just fine too, this one isn't a fluke.

Don't dismiss one of the finest 357 magnum revolvers ever made due to unsubstantiated internet myth.
 
A full barrel underlug is the extra metal encasing the extractor rod that runs the full length of the barrel - like the Colt Python. Older S&W's have a classic or "half" underlug, giving them that elegant "stepped" appearance that so pleases my eye. A lot of the newer S&W's, like the 586/686 models for example, have that Python-like full-length underlug. Bulky and ungraceful to my eye. However, it adds extra mass to the end of the barrel and helps tame magnum recoil.

Oh that. Yes, I like the half length underlug better too. I always thought it was called an ejector rod shroud.

That's why I like the older magnum models, that is a classic look. True the pythons have the full lenght, bu tit looks good with the rib on the top of their frame.
 
Doug, my M19 has about 45K, yes 45 THOUSAND, rounds through it. About 9000 of these have been magnums, about 8000 of them are WAAAYYYY stronger than any factory ammo you can buy commercially except Buffalo bore and Double Tap. ALL of the magnums except a couple boxes have been 125 grain bullets too.

The K-frame being weak is pure-D BS, overblown internet rumor. I have some other high mileage K-frames that are also holding up just fine too, this one isn't a fluke.

Don't dismiss one of the finest 357 magnum revolvers ever made due to unsubstantiated internet myth.

couldn't agree more. I still think my m19 is the finest of my shooters (Python, couple SAA's, a bunch of new smiths).
 
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